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Garion



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 20:32 Reply with quote Back to top

I think I am going to have to change my Signature to 'PainState is always wrong!' soon Wink

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PainState



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 20:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
I think I am going to have to change my Signature to 'PainState is always wrong!' soon Wink


xnoelx already came up with that idea...give me some originality man.

Very Happy Shocked

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 20:41 Reply with quote Back to top

I'll take that as permission Wink

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Rabe



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 21:08 Reply with quote Back to top

bghandras wrote:
Rabe wrote:
Or the deathroller that rolls a double. Wink

That takes block or pro, or even dodge not frenzy. :p
(If you don't believe, then have a look at yours.)

Mine is not made for bashing, but positional play and support! And a deathroller really doesn't have to take Block over Frenzy (if you go for a more fun route): He can blitz reliably (no nega trait), has Juggernaut when blitzing, ST 7 you have to reach when you want to actively block him (it does happen, of course) and usually doesn't last for more than one drive anyway. And if he goes down on a block, he's rarely taken out - neither by the hit nor via fouling. I say Frenzy is an option! (Dodge is still the #1 skill for him in my opinion, but we're not talking pure powergaming here - after all, PainState opened this thread. Wink)

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happygrue



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 21:17 Reply with quote Back to top

Pro is for pansy little elves. Real Men choose frenzeh.

But then, people of all genders who like to win take grab and put frenzy/juggs on a different player.

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Nightbird



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Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 22:45 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState wrote:
Rabe wrote:
Or the deathroller that rolls a double. Wink


IMO sneaky git on the Roller is better than frenzy. Shocked Very Happy


I'm betting you are in a league that uses the optional rule:
'sneaky git sends secret weapons to the KO box instead of banning them.'

If so, in that case great pick.

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PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 29, 2014 - 23:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Nightbird wrote:
PainState wrote:
Rabe wrote:
Or the deathroller that rolls a double. Wink


IMO sneaky git on the Roller is better than frenzy. Shocked Very Happy


I'm betting you are in a league that uses the optional rule:
'sneaky git sends secret weapons to the KO box instead of banning them.'

If so, in that case great pick.


Iam in a better one than that!!!

one that gives me 2 to 3 bribes a match!!!!!!
Razz Very Happy

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Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 00:12 Reply with quote Back to top

We need a new sub-forum - "PainState's fishbowl environment". Razz

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nufflehatesme



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Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 09:30 Reply with quote Back to top

i thought this was a serious question o.0
on a human team, a blitzer with mb,t,po, jump up, i would take pro as the next skill. almost as good as frenzy for knocking someone down and no following up into awkward positions. pro also helps with jump up, and when the blitzer needs to play ball.

on proper bash teams i would go frenzy as you can be more reckless with your pombers, and frenzy is a great skill.
notbobby125



Joined: Feb 28, 2013

Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 10:12 Reply with quote Back to top

You do not really want too much Frenzy on your team. The more you have the harder it will be to keep everyone in the proper position. It's useful to have, helps you open up gaps, gets more knockdowns, and pushes players off the field easier, but the top limit for a team really is four Frenziers.

Pro is a good last pick for players like linemen who don't have good skill access, or players like Slayers, Slann Blitzers, and Vampires that have skills who's failure doesn't automatically end in a turn over (Dauntless, Jump Up, and Hyptnotic Gaze, respectively).

Sadly, I have yet to be blessed with a Big Guy that rolls two doubles, so any of them that have gotten a double have automatically been given Block.
Relezite



Joined: May 21, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 10:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Frenzy is good if you already took juggernaut to make his blitzing more reliable.

I like Frenzy on the snow troll a bunch. Maybe some other big guys would excel with it too. Obviously MA is a factor. 6MA big guys seem better candidates.
Macabeo



Joined: Feb 13, 2011

Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 14:01 Reply with quote Back to top

nufflehatesme wrote:
i thought this was a serious question o.0
on a human team, a blitzer with mb,t,po, jump up, i would take pro as the next skill. almost as good as frenzy for knocking someone down and no following up into awkward positions. pro also helps with jump up, and when the blitzer needs to play ball.

on proper bash teams i would go frenzy as you can be more reckless with your pombers, and frenzy is a great skill.


It's a serious question, I'd say, and I agree with your answer.
PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 14:15 Reply with quote Back to top

If we say Frenzy or Pro is picked last after B/T/MB/PO, then I like Pro more from a fluff point of view.

What, your player suddenly became an uncontrollable bloodthirsty looney?
Or he became more proficient from experience?

Frenzy better if you have more Guard about (orcs), less so if not (humans).
Pro better if the player has less MA (orcs), less so if you have more (humans).

Hmmm, seems it's not straight forward Smile
Coache's preference on playstyle for this one, I think.
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 14:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
I cant work it out Painstate. Are you really just trolling or have you still not figured this game out yet?


Garion wrote:
I think I am going to have to change my Signature to 'PainState is always wrong!' soon Wink


+1 !

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PainState



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Post   Posted: Aug 30, 2014 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

nufflehatesme wrote:
i thought this was a serious question o.0


It was until I walked across this really long bridge and was assaulted by the CRP trolls who live under the bridge.

Surprised

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