Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:17 |
 
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I recently put Stand Firm on a Human Blitzer and wow I forgot how amazing that skill is. Sure it got nerfed big time for this edition but it's still great, and imo pretty much on a par with side step. Why doesn't it get the credit it deserves and why does no one seem to take the skill when side step is so common?
Sure it doesn't kill mens but it's great for winning, where is the stand firm love? |
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huff
Joined: Dec 19, 2009
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:21 |
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Agree.. I'm a fan and take it, so many wasted blocks as a result by the opponent. |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:26 |
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| Garion wrote: | | where is the stand firm love? |
in GRIND:
https://fumbbl.com/p/team?op=view&showmatches=1&team_id=760666 
I also noticed it's a great skill after taking it for my grind-team. I think that the man reason is that it doesn't kill mens, like you say. Perhaps people don't see the benefits of SF over MBPO etc, ie it's easier to win by CAS than by positioning. |
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sann0638
Joined: Aug 09, 2010
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:27 |
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Scrouged eye? |
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Seventyone
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:28 |
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Stonetroll
Joined: Jun 30, 2005
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:51 |
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SF is great, especially with blodge players. It can draw out unnecessary rerolls as your opponent desperately tries to knock over that guy. Same reason why juggernaut is useful, because often you just need to get that push to clear the way for a score etc. At their peak my ranked dorfs had 7 guard SF guys, it was hilarious to play against non-bashers  |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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I find it really useful, it's a great positioning skill. The main problem is when to take it.
I'd love Dwarves to start with is instead of all the Block/Tackle. Would make a really interesting team. |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Dec 18, 2014 - 09:52 |
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I agree, Garion. I like it on diving tacklers, because sidesteppers are easier to get off the ball carrier (by occupying the 2-3 adjacent squares). The best example are slann blitzers, as they can choose between S and A skills. While I ideally like having both ss and sf ones, I prefer sf. (having both lets you use the one the opponent doesn't have the counterskill for).
SF is better for pure marking, ss is better for getting your guard in position.
The two +ST sf slann blitzers on this team can be a real pain. |
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Purplegoo
Joined: Mar 23, 2006
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:23 |
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Isn't Kick the usual subject of threads like these? 
Stand Firm is underrated. But I'm not sure by how much, really. It strikes me as a really good 'unique starter' skill; like a NOS or a Diving Catch that you might one day actually select in a player that doesn't start with it. Do any of the Secret League teams have a Stand Firm gimmick?
I don't know what else would be more underrated than Stand Firm, really. Kick? Diving Tackle? Sure Hands? I suppose much of a muchness. Maybe Piling On. |
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deyempe
Joined: Aug 14, 2013
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:30 |
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Why no Christmas Pie!!!
SF is a good skill sure, I haven't taken it much if at all but I rarely get a player 2 or 3 skills up  It's an obvious choice for units such as Ogre, Troll and Krox!
@:the_sage: hell, thats a nice team, lots of skills on lots of players! |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:40 |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:44 |
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| mister__joshua wrote: | I find it really useful, it's a great positioning skill. The main problem is when to take it.
I'd love Dwarves to start with is instead of all the Block/Tackle. Would make a really interesting team. |
That's a great idea!
Block, stand firm instead. Is there a such team in Secret League? |
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Strider84
Joined: Jun 03, 2009
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Dec 18, 2014 - 10:48 |
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Grod i just wanted to write the same thing
Agree also a team with lots of sf starting skills sounds awesome. |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Dec 18, 2014 - 11:12 |
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| deyempe wrote: |
@:the_sage: hell, thats a nice team, lots of skills on lots of players! |
Well, to be fair the team came about under unnatural conditions: the Rush and Pass league does not allow bash skills or fouls. Combined with no stalling (many TDs), and now recently free apos and babes on every scheduled game, skilling is fast and attrition is kept to a minimum.
I do really like the guy who made 10 intercepts in his 24 games though. =D |
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cdassak
Joined: Oct 23, 2013
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Dec 18, 2014 - 11:19 |
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| mister__joshua wrote: | I find it really useful, it's a great positioning skill. The main problem is when to take it.
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For big guys usually a contest with break tackle as second or third skill (after guard).
For blocker types after Block, guard and maybe mighty blow.
For blitzer types ideally after dodge and guard/diving tackle. |
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