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Which is the best Christmas film ever?
Jingle all the way
4%
 4%  [ 4 ]
Its a wonderful life
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
Elf
6%
 6%  [ 6 ]
Santa Clause the movie
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Nightmare Before Christmas
11%
 11%  [ 11 ]
Scrouged
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
Muppets Christmas Carol
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
Die Hard
50%
 50%  [ 46 ]
Leathal Weapon
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 92


tmoila



Joined: Nov 25, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:18 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Purplegoo wrote:
I like (for instance) Diving Catch on Slann, and even use it sometimes, but I'm not about to begin selecting it anywhere else.
I do really like gimmick starter skills.

I'd like Dodge instead of Diving Catch on Slann Catchers.
Gimmick skills are good if the player starts with sound, core skills.


To me Slann have always been a gimmick team. They start with all the nice little things that do magic and end doing bigger magic stuff at endgame.

Like wizards at d&d early editions or something


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huff



Joined: Dec 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:18 Reply with quote Back to top

SF is extremely strong and underated.

You take for example 2 players with block, one with SF & one without. There is a more than 30% difference on successful 2D blocks against the 2 players; 89% & 55% (without and with SF respectivily).

SF is a great way to win the blocking war, as only about half the time being blocked (55% on 2D) they will knock you down and the other half they will have used the player's action, and also get blocked back on your turn.

A great 3rd/4th skill on players with GS access, especially if you are one that forgoes taking PO.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:19 Reply with quote Back to top

Smeat wrote:
The best thing about DC (that many forget) is that it adds +1 to Catch accurate Passes, which makes it a poor man's NoS.


not really, I mean yeah it sucks, probably more than NoS, but it has a different function as you can pass to an adjacent square to the player to avoid tackle zones and you can catch inaccurate passes with greater frequency, as well as catch in a TZ with your original Ag.

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fidius



Joined: Jun 17, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:23 Reply with quote Back to top

SF/Jump Up is a tidy little combo as well.
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Is stand firm more or less underrated than diving tackle?
albinv



Joined: Sep 15, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Im in the process of building a SF Orc team right now. Partly because SF gets adviced over MB at times by real good coaches (you know who you are!).
But now i learn if they really have to put their money on it they just choose MB as well!
Oh you dirty Pros! Tricked me again i guess.

Hm, that will be fun as i nearly have no positional game. Well, SF will still give more blocks at least - hooray!


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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:50 Reply with quote Back to top

albinv wrote:
SF will still give more blocks at least - hooray!


probably get hit more as well, a double edged sword Wink

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albinv



Joined: Sep 15, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 20:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
probably get hit more as well, a double edged sword Wink


Well.....

I certainly will! Laughing

But that doesnt have to be true for smarter coaches.

I will still give it a go. Maybe it will at least teach me how to mimic i had some positional game. Which would still be progress. ;D
albinv



Joined: Sep 15, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 21:27 Reply with quote Back to top

Oh and ofc "Lethal Weapon" wins over "Die Hard" easily!
The Grinch is actually a quite acceptable christmas movie tho.
/Boo on a Nightmare before Christmas. Twisted Evil
PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 11:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Smeat wrote:
The best thing about DC (that many forget) is that it adds +1 to Catch accurate Passes, which makes it a poor man's NoS.


Worth taking on ag3 A access players more often then I reckon, if they are potential recievers.

Gobbos on an orc team maybe, Catchers on Zon+Human teams for sure.
Joemanji



Joined: Jan 15, 2011

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 11:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Smeat wrote:
The best thing about DC (that many forget) is that it adds +1 to Catch accurate Passes, which makes it a poor man's NoS.


During development the chat was that Humans/Zons etc. would take the skill for that reason. In practice I've not seen much of that happening. Human Catchers in particular have soooo many betters skills to choose from.

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PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 11:33 Reply with quote Back to top

mrt1212 wrote:
Is stand firm more or less underrated than diving tackle?


I wouldn't say DT is underrated at all. Could actually be overrated when not combined with JU.

One the rowdiest moves in the game, from my Ogre playbook: A powerful elf type or Slann blitzer is marking your Dirty Player snot. Declare foul, Dodge away on a 4+ (usually with rr), watch him fall over, and kick him in the head.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 11:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Joemanji wrote:
Smeat wrote:
The best thing about DC (that many forget) is that it adds +1 to Catch accurate Passes, which makes it a poor man's NoS.


During development the chat was that Humans/Zons etc. would take the skill for that reason. In practice I've not seen much of that happening. Human Catchers in particular have soooo many betters skills to choose from.


If taking the skill reduced your tv by -10 I might consider taking it.... maybe.

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JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 11:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Love Actually

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uzkulak



Joined: Mar 30, 2004

Post   Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 12:08 Reply with quote Back to top

I know one of the main reasons I dont take SF more is just because it used to be so much better Razz I know thats not a good reason but I cant shake it. the same with tentacles, dauntless and - yes - diving tackle.

Still, it is a very powerful skill on hard to knock down players, but is no longer worth so much on, ie a human blitzer without dodge. At high levels in the box, I rate break tackle far more highly as a strength skill as it allows big guys etc to escape the cpomb.
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