Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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May 05, 2015 - 23:24 |
 
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| JanMattys wrote: | Maybe. Not me though. I am TERRIBLE with woodies, mainly because I never coached them. Like, never.
I chose them because I always feel I am bad *against* them, not good *with* them. |
The best reason to start using a race is because everyone beats you with it.
And when people beat you all over the place with your new race you'll also know how they can be beaten  . |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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May 06, 2015 - 02:01 |
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Look, I love CD as much as the worst CPOMB spamming coach, but they are not a good team for a one off game at low TV.
They have no sure hands, they have a lot of AG2, they are not very mobile. If you are simply better than your opponent (as the OP states) then it almost doesn't matter what you pick, but you would want to pick something which doesn't have a hard counter just based on matchup.
That can matter a little at different TVs, but in general, elfs do not have any hard counters. Yeah, they'd love to face off against teams without MB or Tackle, but in general, as you build your elf team they acquire skills the opponent has to stop, not skills they use to stop the opponent.
Of course, you'll like to have strip ball and wrestle and maybe diving tackle, but basically you're in good shape if you just spam some blodge, get lucky with some MA and AG (ST is nice, but not as critical), and pick up your standards of sure hands and kick.
It's nearly the same at low TV, because outside of CD and dwarf there will be no tackle (so your WDs can do their thing) and outside of BGs there will be no MB.
So with this somewhat nebulous question the answer is still 'elf'. Because, I'll repeat myself, AG and blodge win games.
It's really that simple.
Now if you get to pimp your specific team then you could go Skaven with a one turner (but why not an elf one turner...) and a cpomb blitzer and a bench... Lots of ways to pimp specific teams, but I imagine you'd find that to win ONE game you would take a team that can score at will over a team that is good at removing the opposition.
Again, for a league or tournament or sprint your mileage may vary. |
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CW
Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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May 06, 2015 - 04:12 |
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For me this is a rhetorical question as there is no chance I will ever go up against a coach of inferior coaching ability. |
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AaronDP83
Joined: Oct 21, 2011
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May 06, 2015 - 04:42 |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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May 06, 2015 - 07:09 |
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| licker wrote: | Look, I love CD as much as the worst CPOMB spamming coach, but they are not a good team for a one off game at low TV.
They have no sure hands, they have a lot of AG2, they are not very mobile. If you are simply better than your opponent (as the OP states) then it almost doesn't matter what you pick, but you would want to pick something which doesn't have a hard counter just based on matchup.
That can matter a little at different TVs, but in general, elfs do not have any hard counters. Yeah, they'd love to face off against teams without MB or Tackle, but in general, as you build your elf team they acquire skills the opponent has to stop, not skills they use to stop the opponent.
Of course, you'll like to have strip ball and wrestle and maybe diving tackle, but basically you're in good shape if you just spam some blodge, get lucky with some MA and AG (ST is nice, but not as critical), and pick up your standards of sure hands and kick.
It's nearly the same at low TV, because outside of CD and dwarf there will be no tackle (so your WDs can do their thing) and outside of BGs there will be no MB.
So with this somewhat nebulous question the answer is still 'elf'. Because, I'll repeat myself, AG and blodge win games.
It's really that simple.
Now if you get to pimp your specific team then you could go Skaven with a one turner (but why not an elf one turner...) and a cpomb blitzer and a bench... Lots of ways to pimp specific teams, but I imagine you'd find that to win ONE game you would take a team that can score at will over a team that is good at removing the opposition.
Again, for a league or tournament or sprint your mileage may vary. |
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
Prepare any rookie team vs my (not yet created)rookie CDS!  |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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May 06, 2015 - 07:20 |
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Not sure what that would prove, but do you really think that rookie CD are favorites over woodies? |
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Beerox
Joined: Feb 14, 2008
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May 06, 2015 - 08:03 |
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Random opposing race, random but equal TV, I take the Chaos Dorfses. |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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May 06, 2015 - 08:34 |
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If i had to win: wood elves, dark elves or skaven. Maybe Undead even. If i just had not to lose, dwarves for sure.
Prefer something fast/agile to avoid risk of draw. |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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May 06, 2015 - 08:40 |
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| licker wrote: | | Not sure what that would prove, but do you really think that rookie CD are favorites over woodies? |
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
Well, I figure you don't consider yourself an inferior coach. So it's not going to be about who is the better coach. If you believe in this matchup, let's have a go at it. And... yes, I do. |
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