koadah
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May 30, 2015 - 00:38 |
 
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| mrt1212 wrote: |
In a bigger picture, what do you think the absolute minimum number of coaches would be for this league to be successful? I'd say 32 is a good starting point with 4 people per stable and a few alternates just in case. You'd probably want to ensure a psuedo-robin format like the NFL has. |
The main thing is to get some big name stables/clans.
e.g. representing some big leagues and containing some notorious big mouth coaches.
WIL vs SWL has already been done and has an established rivalry.
You only need to couple more to start with. Those leagues could also add 'B' teams. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 00:40 |
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Here are my 2cents on format
scrap open play
You get 4-8 stables formed up from around the globe.
2-4 of the stables every month lock horns in a open round robin, that way the 2 stables are only playing against each other.
the other 2-4 stables get the month off. Do not want to get burned out.
The stable teams all start out as rookies, NO NON STABLE matches between down times.
Keep squaring off stables until all the stables have played each other. The top 2 stables in total W/L play one last open round robin for the stable championship.
You can include optional rules if you like, BUT
There should be one optional rule enabled. OT for all matches. No stinking ties in stable matches.
There you go. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 00:45 |
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All you need for this to work is 4 stables with 4 coaches in each stable.
That is the bare minnimum.
The risk of increasing the # of stables and the #of coaches in each stable is this. This is league, which is notorious for a massive flake out factor. Keeping it small and compact is optimum for success. The definition of success is that the vast majority of matches actually get played. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 00:46 |
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Each stable should be 5 coaches IMO. no more, no less. |
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spubbbba
Joined: Jul 31, 2006
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May 30, 2015 - 00:49 |
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| DukeTyrion wrote: | | https://fumbbl.com/help:StableCoaches |
That was so much fun, can't believe it was all the way back in 2007.
If it went down that route I'd suggest allowing each stable a pool of players to choose from, maybe a team of 8 with 4 or 5 coaches actually playing each round. That way you allow for people being on holiday, bad timezone match ups etc. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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May 30, 2015 - 00:52 |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 00:53 |
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| spubbbba wrote: | | DukeTyrion wrote: | | https://fumbbl.com/help:StableCoaches |
That was so much fun, can't believe it was all the way back in 2007.
If it went down that route I'd suggest allowing each stable a pool of players to choose from, maybe a team of 8 with 4 or 5 coaches actually playing each round. That way you allow for people being on holiday, bad timezone match ups etc. |
I agree, for this to work at optimal level.
Here is what happens.
You have, lets say 8 coaches all declare for one stable, they form up.
They all make rookie teams.
There is a stable captain who organizes his stable.
Once the next round is declared and the stables are matched up, he decides by talking to the coaches who wants to play and who is going to sit out this round.
Stable captains could actually talk and decide the match ups each round since it is open round robin.
The idea of having more than 4-5 teams in a stable to allow for stables to ensure they can field 5 teams for a stable match up is ideal.
The Stable captain role: well we will say this is a matter of leadership style. Although he must be good enough to draw 4+ coaches to his banner. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 01:00 |
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| koadah wrote: | If it is going to be brand new teams then it may as well be non prog.
Round robin probably won't work.
IMO challenges are the way to go.
e.g. 4 stable KO to determine the champs. Then challenges to determine the next Challenger to the Champs. |
Sir, you have OLC on the brain.
Open Round Robin is the way to go and here is why.
#1 the tournament format is posted, scores and so forth.
#2 The teams can square off by stable against each other. Meaning the 5 teams of each stable know which teams they can match up against.
#3 You could organize the tournament with a stable Captains telling all the coaches involved what this round matches up will be.
#4 The idea that the matches are recorded for all time in a structured format is ideal. Arranging KO matches in PM makes it to far in background of league play that the vast majority of coaches would have no clue it is actually going on. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 01:05 |
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To heck with non progression
The idea of rookie teams is to build them up.
Some stables rise and some fall.
Stable rewards the winners and punishes the losers by having demolished teams. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 01:08 |
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Now if this idea is to have a stable match up, a one time event. Then , yeah, let coaches bring what ever L team they want, form up the stable and off you go.
IF you want stable to be a long term league, run over a few years then the rookie team idea is the way to go. |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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May 30, 2015 - 01:11 |
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| koadah wrote: | | The simplest thing would be for mrt1212 to move to the East Coast. Even better move to Europe. |
 That might be true. |
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PainState
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
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May 30, 2015 - 01:19 |
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My last though before I call it quits tonight.
Consider the timezone issues. That is the other HUGE hurdle of league play.
I have some ideas on that front and will get back to them on Sat. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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May 30, 2015 - 01:41 |
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| PainState wrote: |
Sir, you have OLC on the brain. |
That's cos it works. 
| PainState wrote: |
Open Round Robin is the way to go and here is why.
#1 the tournament format is posted, scores and so forth.
#2 The teams can square off by stable against each other. Meaning the 5 teams of each stable know which teams they can match up against.
#3 You could organize the tournament with a stable Captains telling all the coaches involved what this round matches up will be.
#4 The idea that the matches are recorded for all time in a structured format is ideal. Arranging KO matches in PM makes it to far in background of league play that the vast majority of coaches would have no clue it is actually going on. |
What I meant was don't try to get every stable to play every other stable.
Sort out the matches how ever you like. |
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DustBunny
Joined: Oct 14, 2008
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May 30, 2015 - 02:33 |
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I'd be happy to play for a stable for any of the weird groups I seem to find myself in :/
Halfling
SWL
The other one I'm not meant to talk about
If this gets going and anyone wants to pull together one of these let me know  |
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Throweck
Joined: Feb 23, 2013
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May 30, 2015 - 08:59 |
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Ok. Lots to think about and consider. Thanks Painstate and Koadah.
I think having 'Stable Leaders' would work as they can recruit their stable. In terms of format, I'm still undecided. Need to map it out a bit.
Seems that some coaches are interested though which is a positive start. |
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