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Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 16:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Grab says "Only while making a block action". Since he's not making a block action, it doesn't apply.
arry



Joined: Feb 26, 2014

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 17:25 Reply with quote Back to top

But it's treated as if he were blocking! See? Very Happy
Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 17:35 Reply with quote Back to top

But you also block someone while blitzing, but you're still not making a "Block Action"
Cavetroll



Joined: Jan 21, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 17:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Sutherlands wrote:
Grab says "Only while making a block action". Since he's not making a block action, it doesn't apply.


No, it's still treated as if 'A' were blocking. A is still the 'first player' in this situation, not G.

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Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 17:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Cavetroll wrote:
Sutherlands wrote:
Grab says "Only while making a block action". Since he's not making a block action, it doesn't apply.


No, it's still treated as if 'A' were blocking. A is still the 'first player' in this situation, not G.
That's not true. Then if A had grab, he could "grab" X
Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 17:52 Reply with quote Back to top

Fyi, grab cancels side step when blitzing Wink
Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 18:34 Reply with quote Back to top

I'm pretty sure most of us already have that information
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 18:54 Reply with quote Back to top

Sutherlands wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of us already have that information


*Runs up out of breath*

Sutherlands...*huff huff* Did you know that Tackle cancels Dodge both in blocking and dodging? *wipes sweat from brow* Glad I could help!

*Runs off*
Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 19:21 Reply with quote Back to top

mrt1212 wrote:
Sutherlands wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of us already have that information


*Runs up out of breath*

Sutherlands...*huff huff* Did you know that Tackle cancels Dodge both in blocking and dodging? *wipes sweat from brow* Glad I could help!

*Runs off*
I ain't even mad
mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Jul 30, 2015 - 19:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Sutherlands wrote:
mrt1212 wrote:
Sutherlands wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of us already have that information


*Runs up out of breath*

Sutherlands...*huff huff* Did you know that Tackle cancels Dodge both in blocking and dodging? *wipes sweat from brow* Glad I could help!

*Runs off*
I ain't even mad


Laughing Precisely!
Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 31, 2015 - 08:31 Reply with quote Back to top

hey guys! it's not that obviuos I think.
Since you can't grab on blitzes really, just do the SS cancelling stuff.
PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: Jul 31, 2015 - 12:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Take moar grab = be less annoyed at elves
But really it's for S access only players as 3rd or 4th normal, or a legend skill on GS access.

Would be fun to do a Grab Spam team though.
mister__joshua



Joined: Jun 20, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 31, 2015 - 12:57
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Taking just this bit:
Quote:
This secondary push back is treated exactly like a normal push back
as if the second player had been blocked by the first

...there could be an argument that the pushed player (your opponent) decides where player X gets pushed to. This would negate all chainpushing etc.

I'm not saying that's right, or makes sense, but just how it reads. Fwiw I've always thought chainpushing breaks suspension of disbelief a bit in bloodbowl. It's very 'gamey'. Great tactical aspect of the game though.
Angmarred



Joined: Feb 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Jul 31, 2015 - 13:55 Reply with quote Back to top

PaddyMick wrote:
Take moar grab = be less annoyed at elves
But really it's for S access only players as 3rd or 4th normal, or a legend skill on GS access.

Would be fun to do a Grab Spam team though.


They're called Simyins Smile
dode74



Joined: Aug 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 31, 2015 - 14:28 Reply with quote Back to top

mister__joshua wrote:
Taking just this bit:
Quote:
This secondary push back is treated exactly like a normal push back
as if the second player had been blocked by the first

...there could be an argument that the pushed player (your opponent) decides where player X gets pushed to. This would negate all chainpushing etc.
Only if you ignore the very next sentence in the rulebook:
Quote:
The coach of the moving team decides all push back directions for secondary push backs unless the pushed player has a skill that overrides this.
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