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Overhamsteren



Joined: May 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 18:37 Reply with quote Back to top

As a noob I must ask, why is there no non-chaotic halflings playing, goblins at least get the cheater team although I don't see why they shouldn't have both the normal and the cheater team too?

Enlighten me. Mr. Green

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WhatBall



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 18:44 Reply with quote Back to top

Not sure why, but would love to see a variant of the Halfling roster back in Stunty. We need a few more 'good' teams. I'd also like to see a very weak (lower AV/ST) elf-like team with 4AG in Stunty. Considering the penalties for Passing in Stunty, an elf-like team would be a nice variant.

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Nelphine



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 18:47 Reply with quote Back to top

The basic reason is that it was decided that the normal teams shouldn't be in Stunty Leeg, as part of the effort to make Stunty Leeg unique and stand on it's own. Then slightly modified versions of those teams (chaos halflings and goblin cheaters) were built to represent those teams with a minimum of change. Of course, these teams (especially the halfling) don't nescessarily capture the exact same flavour of the original teams - so other teams (mostly goblinish) were created, while no other halfling stunty team ever actually seemed to get off the ground.
Overhamsteren



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 18:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Heh yeah there isn't really much to say about halflings except that they eat a lot and suck at bloodbowl, the basic team pretty much captures them perfectly.

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Ffoley



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 18:51 Reply with quote Back to top

WhatBall wrote:
Not sure why, but would love to see a variant of the Halfling roster back in Stunty. We need a few more 'good' teams. I'd also like to see a very weak (lower AV/ST) elf-like team with 4AG in Stunty. Considering the penalties for Passing in Stunty, an elf-like team would be a nice variant.


+1 for a "low elves" team and elfballing AG4 in stunty leeg.
Sigmar1



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Just change pixies to ag4 and you're done.

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pythrr



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:18 Reply with quote Back to top

low elfs would have to be all ST1, no?

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WhatBall



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:23 Reply with quote Back to top

pythrr wrote:
low elfs would have to be all ST1, no?

Yes, I picture the team being very weak to offset the AG4 in Stunty.

Not big on rehashing Pixies. Are low-Elves a GW fluff-compliant race? Pardon my ignorance on the GW world.

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shadow46x2



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Nelphine wrote:
The basic reason is that it was decided that the normal teams shouldn't be in Stunty Leeg, as part of the effort to make Stunty Leeg unique and stand on it's own. Then slightly modified versions of those teams (chaos halflings and goblin cheaters) were built to represent those teams with a minimum of change. Of course, these teams (especially the halfling) don't nescessarily capture the exact same flavour of the original teams - so other teams (mostly goblinish) were created, while no other halfling stunty team ever actually seemed to get off the ground.


um...nelphine....with all due respect, halflings & goblins were removed long before you joined the site...

how exactly would you know why they were removed?...

cheaters & cflings existed at the same time as goblins & flings...

in fact, i'm not 100% but i think cheaters & cflings are some of the original batch of stunty teams...

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:41 Reply with quote Back to top

for clarification, from 2007 when christer did his revamp of the league

Christer wrote:
I intend to remove the plain goblins and the halflings. It's too complicated with respects to [L] to have these teams around. I get too many complaints about [L] flings and gobbos not being the same as in Stunty, and it's not an option to have two rosters with the same name in the division.


here's the thread....

page 6 of the stunty forum...there's actually some cool discussions from back then when christer did his overview....good history on the league...

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pythrr



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 19:52 Reply with quote Back to top

shadow46x2 wrote:


how exactly would you know why they were removed?...


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maysrill



Joined: Dec 29, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 20:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Ffoley wrote:
WhatBall wrote:
Not sure why, but would love to see a variant of the Halfling roster back in Stunty. We need a few more 'good' teams. I'd also like to see a very weak (lower AV/ST) elf-like team with 4AG in Stunty. Considering the penalties for Passing in Stunty, an elf-like team would be a nice variant.


+1 for a "low elves" team and elfballing AG4 in stunty leeg.


How about "Elf Children". You could make one for each elf race even, based on the adult rosters.

Example: Dark Elf Children
0-2 Bully - 6/2/4/6, Dodge, Stunty GA/SP
0-2 Apprentice Witch Elf - 6/1/4/5, Dodge, Jump Up, Frenzy, Stunty A/GSP
0-2 Runner - 6/1/4/5 Dodge, Stunty, Dump Off AP/GS
0-16 Juvenile Line Elf - 5/1/4/6, Dodge, Stunty, A/GSP

(general rule: -1MA/-2ST/-2AV, slight skill tweaks)

I make no guesses as to how to cost them out. Bullies would be the blitzer equivalent, with ST2 and G access.
WhatBall



Joined: Aug 21, 2008

Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 20:55 Reply with quote Back to top

I don't like the idea of kids playing. I think it also breaks at least one of Shadow's rules for team creation, which is revised FFB teams. They really should be something original, and I don't think we need four of them.

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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 21:01
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Overhamsteren wrote:
and suck at bloodbowl


speak for yourselves Razz

http://www.fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=683627

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Nelphine



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Post   Posted: Mar 06, 2012 - 21:52 Reply with quote Back to top

@Shadow: Sorry if I got details wrong; your link to Christer's post makes sense, my answer was from what I had read in the various threads about team creation. I did not intend to step on anyone's toes.
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