Doomington
Joined: Jul 09, 2012
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Aug 12, 2012 - 17:32 |
 
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Mercutio
Joined: Jan 31, 2012
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Aug 12, 2012 - 17:33 |
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Yes, Fungus the Loon proves this |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 12, 2012 - 17:44 |
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Yes because the b&c rules say when he hits something it counts as a block even though you are just using a move action. Same for claw or piling on. |
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blader4411
Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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Aug 12, 2012 - 17:58 |
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I don't think a B&C can Pile On. Doesn't it instantly get KOed if prone?  |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Aug 12, 2012 - 18:03 |
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| blader4411 wrote: | | I don't think a B&C can Pile On. Doesn't it instantly get KOed if prone? |
Well that would mean they shouldn't but not necessarily that they couldn't!  |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Aug 12, 2012 - 18:12 |
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Get grab, think about it. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 12, 2012 - 18:22 |
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| blader4411 wrote: | | I don't think a B&C can Pile On. Doesn't it instantly get KOed if prone? |
Yup they do but they still can use it. |
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Vesikannu
Joined: Mar 06, 2011
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Aug 13, 2012 - 09:02 |
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| Garion wrote: | | blader4411 wrote: | | I don't think a B&C can Pile On. Doesn't it instantly get KOed if prone? |
Yup they do but they still can use it. |
No, they can't. Piling On requires you block as part of your Block or Blitz Action. B&C can only take Move Actions, so he is never in a position to use Piling On. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 13, 2012 - 10:11 |
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Yes but as I said before under the b&c rules it says when you enter an occupied square it counts as a block using the normal block rules.
The quote you have above is also in the mighty blow rules to isn't it? but we know that is allowed as fungus has it.
You may be right as I don't have the rules at hand but either way its irrelevant as no one will ever use it anyway. |
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dode74
Joined: Aug 14, 2009
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Aug 13, 2012 - 10:19 |
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There is a deliberate and specified difference between a block and a Block Action. The B&C quote you mentioned states:
"If during his Move Action he would move into an occupied square then the player will throw a block following normal blocking rules against whoever is in that square,"
This specifies that it is a Move Action but has a block as a part of it, in a similar manner to how a Blitz Action is a player moving and blocking in the same turn, but is neither a Move Action nor a Block Action. Multiple Block is a clear example of the difference between a Block Action and the act of blocking.
Piling On specifies that:
"The player may use this skill after he has made a block as part of one of his Block or Blitz Actions" (actions which cannot be made by the B&C), whereas Mighty Blow says:
"Add 1 to any Armour or Injury roll made by a player with this skill when an opponent is Knocked Down by this player during a block."
So Vesikannu is exactly correct - a B&C cannot use PO whether he would want to or not. |
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Niebling
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 13, 2012 - 10:33 |
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he can use MB if he knocks them down, if he just stumpels into them while they are already on the ground he cant use mblw |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 13, 2012 - 11:45 |
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yup thats how it is implemented, just checked and PO has been removed from the skills they can get for simplicity reasons too. Looks like Kalimar is all over it.  |
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uuni
Joined: Mar 12, 2010
Location: Finland
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Aug 13, 2012 - 12:33 |
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Indeed dode74 explains the situation correctly. |
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