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kilinrax



Joined: Jan 12, 2015

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 12:31 Reply with quote Back to top

This guy rolled +ST for his second skill after I gave him Wrestle for his first.

Obviously I'd rather he had Block, and I know some coaches avoid Wrestle entirely just to avoid this exact situation. But given I did not, now how would more experienced delf coaches build him, assuming he continues to survive/skill up?
Timetis



Joined: Mar 31, 2014

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 12:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Leap/Dodge//Stripball/Tackle to make him a sacker

Dodge/sidestep/fend to make him a roadblock

I think those're your best options.
Endzone



Joined: Apr 01, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 12:39 Reply with quote Back to top

I think Wrestle may be better than block on a ST4 linelf because you can make him a sacker. e.g.

ST, Wrestle, Dodge, Leap, Strip Ball, Tackle
Endzone



Joined: Apr 01, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Beaten to it by minute!
DustBunny



Joined: Oct 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

dirty player

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MDeLarge



Joined: Aug 07, 2013

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 13:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Dirty Player, Pass Block, Sprint
Roland



Joined: May 12, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 14:22 Reply with quote Back to top

Diving tackle Twisted Evil

EDIT: oh, thought he had +ST already...
then I'd go:
dodge
diving tackle
sidestep
Kam



Joined: Nov 06, 2012

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 14:37 Reply with quote Back to top

I love ST4 Diving Tacklers but the combo with Wrestle is pretty bad (even though both skills have a good synergy with JU).

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Kalessin



Joined: Jul 31, 2012

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 14:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Endzone wrote:
I think Wrestle may be better than block on a ST4 linelf because you can make him a sacker. e.g.

ST, Wrestle, Dodge, Leap, Strip Ball, Tackle


I like this progression, though I'd pick tackle sooner. As you advance, tackle will remain useful, while you'll find more surehanded-ballcarriers. Leap is nice.
Rat_Salat



Joined: Apr 22, 2011

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 15:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Would have taken block.
Would have taken guard over +ST.

Since you didn't, dodge is obvious next.
Tackle fits the sacker role, although he lacks the speed to excel at it.
Medon



Joined: Jan 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 15:22 Reply with quote Back to top

Don't worry too much.. my +STR wood elf lineman got a -STR injury two games later. I'm sure Nuffle has similar plans with your guy Smile
kilinrax



Joined: Jan 12, 2015

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 16:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Rat_Salat wrote:
Would have taken block.
Would have taken guard over +ST.


The first I understand. The second - why, particularly on a team with max base ST3? Are you that concerned about giving up the extra 20TV?
licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 16:48 Reply with quote Back to top

It's a rule of 5 thing, you're better off not asking.

But sure, while W doesn't feel as sexy on this guy it's not so terrible. Take strip next, or tackle, then add leap.

Dodge can wait, he ain't really ever going to be that mobile, and you probably have other players who will draw the blitzes.

The real issue would become if he rolls a double next, because MB on a ST4 elf is almost impossible to pass up, but with W, MB loses some of it's impact. Guard is still fine, W/G isn't terrible since you're not usually using them to gum things up, just to provide the assist on your turn.
Verminardo



Joined: Sep 27, 2006

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 16:58 Reply with quote Back to top

I once had a +ST Wrestle Lino on a High Elf team. I was going to develope him into a Sacker but as it turned out, in game I usually needed him to do some heavy lifting and in close games against strong / bashy opponents I never got around to spoon-feeding him SPP so he died before his next skill. Very Happy

With that in mind I would skip Dodge and go stright for Leap, then Strip Ball.
Sutherlands



Joined: Aug 01, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 29, 2015 - 17:47 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd go the sacker route, but I'd take leap next, as you have a 1/3 or 1/2 chance to get the ball out for each die already. With 2 dice this is pretty decent.
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