Brodent
Joined: Aug 17, 2016
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Aug 23, 2016 - 00:48 |
 
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I'm playing skaven in a small BB2 league with my friends. The league has double round robin seasons.
I was off to a good start until my last match against dark elves. All six of his blocks in his first three turns resulted in injuries! Still managed to put up a bit of a fight but now I have a niggled linerat and a -ma linerat. No SPP on either of them.
I have 13 players total and I'm wondering if I should fire the two injured rats. Very agonizing decision for me because while I would hate to see an MVP land on an injured linerat I have been enjoying having two reserves. Most of the teams in the league don't have deep benches. I only have 40k in my treasury atm.
What do people think?
My team:
Gutter runner (+agi)
Gutter runner (block)
Gutter runner
Storm vermin x2
Thrower (block)
Linerat x 5
Linerat (niggle)
Linerat (-ma)
All my positionals are close to leveling.
Dark elves, wood elves, chaos, orcs, and humans in the league so far. More teams joining next season.
Thanks in advance. |
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awambawamb
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
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Aug 23, 2016 - 00:55 |
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Niggling av7 rats are a liability, not an asset. I'd keep such a linerat for fouling purposes, but it should have skills like kick/dirty player |
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DarthPhysicist
Joined: Jun 14, 2015
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Aug 23, 2016 - 01:03 |
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I'd fire to keep the chances of my MVP landing on someone useful higher, but I could be convinced otherwise. If you had more cash to replace them it would be an easier decision, but I still think I would fire them. |
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Uedder
Joined: Aug 03, 2010
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Aug 23, 2016 - 01:07 |
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keep both, they're just meatshields even when sane anyway. |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Aug 23, 2016 - 01:37 |
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I'd use the niggled rat to foul, if you keep him. -ma is great for LOS duty. Beyond that, these rats have no other use |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 23, 2016 - 02:28 |
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Fire the niggled, keep the -MA. |
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sbr32
Joined: May 23, 2015
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Aug 23, 2016 - 04:56 |
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With 13 rats I would probably keep the Niggled and hope he doesn't have to actually play, I wouldn't fire him until I had ~140k in the bank.
With an 11 rat team I would fire him ASAP as I would rather have a loner than a Niggled.
The -MA guy is fine stick him on the LoS until he gets dead. |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Aug 23, 2016 - 05:26 |
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Fire the niggle, always fire a niggle, don't worry about roster size or anything else, just fire them.
Unless they are a legend or some other highly skilled necessary part of a team, but for line fodder?
Fire all niggles, every time, don't think, don't ask, just fire, Fire, FIRE!
-MA is irrelevant though, I'd keep him and leave him on the line to eventually get killed. |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 23, 2016 - 07:48 |
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seriously - fire all niggling injury players. They're ticking time bombs. Maybe not if they're av9 and ST5 and even then, look at them with a suspicious eye |
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Antithesisoftime
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
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Aug 23, 2016 - 08:34 |
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| mrt1212 wrote: | | seriously - fire all niggling injury players. They're ticking time bombs. Maybe not if they're av9 and ST5 and even then, look at them with a suspicious eye |
Honestly, I'd keep a Niggle if he's useful. I just expect my useful niggles to die.
This guy, worse case scenario, emergency line fodder.
Best case, foul the opponent's clawPOMBer or One-turner.
Just expect him to die. I'd honestly replace him once you have a little cash saved in your treasury, to cover more important players |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Aug 23, 2016 - 08:48 |
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| Antithesisoftime wrote: | | mrt1212 wrote: | | seriously - fire all niggling injury players. They're ticking time bombs. Maybe not if they're av9 and ST5 and even then, look at them with a suspicious eye |
Honestly, I'd keep a Niggle if he's useful. I just expect my useful niggles to die.
This guy, worse case scenario, emergency line fodder.
Best case, foul the opponent's clawPOMBer or One-turner.
Just expect him to die. I'd honestly replace him once you have a little cash saved in your treasury, to cover more important players |
Define useful - barring a situation where you have a one turner you want to stash, there is no utility he could provide. Even as a fouler, that's not outweighed by his combustibility.
Now there are arguments to make for a niggling player who has a either of two purposes - ottder or killer. Both are more valuable for what they can do than is weighed against their vulnerability. With the killer you can make an effort to protect from a foul. With the ottder, just score already and get it over with.
If your opponent is giving you shots with a this guy on their best players then I suggest you bring flings to the next game to give them a sporting chance. |
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Beanchilla
Joined: Sep 20, 2015
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Aug 23, 2016 - 09:53 |
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Niggle just isn't worth the TV but MA can still be good fodder until you an afford another.
If you're above 11, probably not worth firing unless you're pretty sure they're going to leave the field. Linerats leave the field fast already and a niggled one will be out of the game quickly. Let him live out his days with his family in retirement. |
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Rawlf
Joined: Jul 15, 2007
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Aug 23, 2016 - 10:20 |
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I would keep them both.
From what you describe, firing them means you will never have a bench. And I would want to have a bench in that league, mostly for fouling the teams w/o bench themselves. Also to not be outnumbered so often and so badly.
In regular Ranked play on FUMBBL, I'd retire both probably. |
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m0gw41
Joined: Jun 12, 2012
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:40 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | Fire the niggled, keep the -MA. |
This. |
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Azure
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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Aug 23, 2016 - 19:39 |
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The -MA is fine. Keep him. Fire the niggle. If a linerat gets a skill (which of course means DP 90% of the time) - then I would keep them if they get -MA or -AG. I keep -ST and -AV linerats with DP if I do not have enough DP (meaning at least 3). Niggled linerats I tend to just not keep around unless I am really on hard times...which with skaven is not that unusual.
This is my league skaven team. Currently have a -AG, -MA and -MA linerat on the team. Also have -ST gutter runner and -MA storm vermin.
Skaven in competitive environments need to keep the wounded around. |
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