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Skill Mandolin (Dodge,AG+2,Leap) to Legend
Tackle then Wrestle
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Wrestle then Tackle
35%
 35%  [ 13 ]
Block then Tackle
48%
 48%  [ 18 ]
Tackle then Block
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Fend then something,
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Pass then something, please comment on why.
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Claw then pie(cause you only have one killer)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other, please comment on why.
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 37


DonnyRainboe



Joined: Sep 13, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 21:54 Reply with quote Back to top

I Can't decide which way to go with Mandolin the star of my Androm

I want to plan long term and pray he survives to Legend.

I rolled another double so sort of feels like a waste to give him wrestle,block or tackle. But I feel one of them would be most useful short term.

Sidestep seems okay but not great.
Pass seems like I would need to change the way I play to make use of it properly.
Fend seems too cowardly as does jump up.

So I'm open to options. I understand that the optimal skills for cage buster would be Tackle and Wrestle, but wrestle just doesn't feel right on a double.
Seventyone



Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:03 Reply with quote Back to top

if you are leaping/dodging in to blitz then it has to be wrestle (or maybe strip ball)?

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tmoila



Joined: Nov 25, 2012

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Block, of course.

Wrestle is bad, tackle is senseless. Block will make him legend and beyond.

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licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:10 Reply with quote Back to top

I mean cool player and all, but frankly...

What role does he actually perform for your team?

Block obvs, what else is remotely useful? Leap was a mistake in my opinion as well, but I guess you use it for something.
fidius



Joined: Jun 17, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:25 Reply with quote Back to top

I think you take Wrestle eventually, and JU has synergy with that, so JU. With Leap he'll never be out of the play. Sure Feet is another option since if he becomes a sacker he'll want more range.
m0gw41



Joined: Jun 12, 2012

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:36 Reply with quote Back to top

At some point you've got to say thanks but no thanks to nuffle for infinite doubles/stats. Don't worry he'll understand in this case: Block.

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Antithesisoftime



Joined: Aug 20, 2014

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Block, then sure hands, make him your ball handler, and teams will be unable to lock him down.
Defensively, this makes him an excellent ball retriever as well, as even in 2 TZs, he's more likely to get the ball than fail.

Barring sure hands, consider guard as his legend skill. 2+ to put an assist ANYWHERE on the field is pretty nice.

Likewise, Tackle or Strip Ball at legend will make him a threat on defense, giving you elf like capabilities that Chaos typically lacks.

I do echo some of the sentiments that leap was a poor choice on him, as Ag5 with dodge will tend to be more efficient for him in most situations. But now, you need to look at getting the most out of him that you can.
Seventyone



Joined: Dec 02, 2010

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 22:45 Reply with quote Back to top

problem is as he's move 5 he's not going anywhere on the pitch is he...

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licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 16, 2017 - 23:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Seventyone wrote:
problem is as he's move 5 he's not going anywhere on the pitch is he...


This...

I cannot really figure out what the actual uses for this guy is.

I would have strongly considered skipping the 2nd AG and leap.

Then you'd have an AG4 blodge warrior with sure hands (probably).

Of course what you do have is unique and cool, but, well, but I still don't see what purpose he actually serves the team.
DrDeath



Joined: Mar 27, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2017 - 00:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Wonderful player, any agi side would kill to have a 5459 player with Dodge and Leap. I'd say his role is blindingly obvious - sacker. No cage is safe from this guy. Ignore the double and take wrestle, or possibly block, next up strip ball or sure hands. With sure hands this guy could both sack and then retrieve the ball in one move.
thoralf



Joined: Mar 06, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2017 - 00:56 Reply with quote Back to top

There is always Sneaky Git.

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licker



Joined: Jul 10, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2017 - 01:30 Reply with quote Back to top

DrDeath wrote:
Wonderful player, any agi side would kill to have a 5459 player with Dodge and Leap. I'd say his role is blindingly obvious - sacker. No cage is safe from this guy. Ignore the double and take wrestle, or possibly block, next up strip ball or sure hands. With sure hands this guy could both sack and then retrieve the ball in one move.


You realize his next skill is 100spp away...

That's the problem (such as it is).

He needs 2 skills to be complete at whatever you think he should be.

I mean he is a cool player, and you obviously give him block. Cage leaping chaos? Sure, it's cool, but honestly, it's not really that useful for them as they don't have any way to reliably recover the ball. He's MA5, so not that hard to stay away from for elf/skaven, and Chaos already has huge advantages vs. non elfs.

I dunno, I sound pretty negative I guess, not really my intention, but I just cannot imagine ever actually building a player like this myself, so I don't really know what the actual use for this guy is, because he is a @#$@# ton of TV for a slow cage leaper, who isn't really good at it either without wrestle/strip/tackle
awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 17, 2017 - 01:31 Reply with quote Back to top

at this point...

Wrestle and then Strip Ball.

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Traul



Joined: Jun 09, 2013

Post   Posted: Feb 19, 2017 - 02:06 Reply with quote Back to top

licker wrote:
Cage leaping chaos? Sure, it's cool, but honestly, it's not really that useful for them as they don't have any way to reliably recover the ball.

Big Hand + Two Heads on a goat, until you get an AGI 4 goat?
Balle2000



Joined: Sep 25, 2008

Post   Posted: Feb 19, 2017 - 04:04 Reply with quote Back to top

You now have 2+ leaps with st4. Use that for defensive sacks.

3 skills go with that. Wrestle, Tackle/Strip Ball.

Take Wrestle now.

Then you have 100 spp to test what you need more often. Tackle or Strip.

Simples.
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