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MenonaLoco



Joined: Jan 05, 2016

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 05:53 Reply with quote Back to top

A few questions:

1) When i walk y player past a tents-player of mine and a shadowing player is following my player, can he get trapped in the tents?

2) Can a shadowing player be shadowed?

3) A pass blocking player can get trapped in tents or diving tackled?
bghandras



Joined: Feb 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 07:13 Reply with quote Back to top

1. I think so, but not 100%.

2. Yes. This is why shadowing is roll based It used to be automatic, but that could theoretically break the game, creating endless loop of shadowing players (all of them moving in a circle moving around, triggering each other).

3. Yes.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 14:01 Reply with quote Back to top

1) The Tentacles skill works when an opponent player attempts to dodge or leap out of any of the Tentacles player's tackle zones, and the Shadowing move is not a Dodge nor a Leap, therefore the Shadowing player is not stopped by Tentacles when he's Shadow-moving during opponent's turn.
sann0638



Joined: Aug 09, 2010

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 16:07 Reply with quote Back to top

I think you can't shadow a shadower as the shadower is not taking an action.

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Rbthma



Joined: Jan 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 18:51 Reply with quote Back to top

1) No. Shadowing isn't a dodge or leap so Tents won't activate.

2) Yes. Shadowing activates whenever a player leaves their TZ for any reason. Haven't actually tried this in the client though. You can shadow a follow up move from a block

3) Yes.
Stonetroll



Joined: Jun 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 19:06 Reply with quote Back to top

Also pass blocker getting trapped in tentacles used to break the game, not sure if its been fixed yet.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 19:12 Reply with quote Back to top

"Shadowing: The player may use this skill when a player performing an Action on the opposing team moves out of any of his tackle zones for any reason.[...]"

Since Shadowing is not an Action, but a free follow-move granted by the Shadowing skill, a Shadowing player perfoming a Shadowing move can't be followed by opponent Shadowing players.
Rbthma



Joined: Jan 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 19:15 Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, the pass-block tentacle game breaking bug was fixed

ah, good catch Matt and Sann - only active player can be shadowed


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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 19:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks.
If the client considers the free Shadow-move like a Move Action then you can Shadow the Shadowing player, but technically a Shadowing move is not a Move action.
Rbthma



Joined: Jan 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2019 - 19:39 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Thanks.
If the client considers the free Shadow-move like a Move Action then you can Shadow the Shadowing player, but technically a Shadowing move is not a Move action.


It's definitely not - occurs in opponent's turn and can only declare actions in your own turn AFAIK. Also says "...he does not have to make any Dodge rolls when he makes this move..."

move, not Move action Very Happy
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