krazeeEyezKilla
Joined: Jun 20, 2017
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May 03, 2020 - 21:05 |
 
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I've had 2 rookie UW Skaven Throwers skill up in my last game. One rolled a 6-5, the other a 5-5. I'm tempted to take one and skip one. This boils down to, which is better early ag4 or Dodge on a UW Skaven Thrower?
Putting up my first poll to get some feedback from this great community. For context, poll is for this BB Trophy team: https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=949475 |
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Chivite
Joined: Sep 04, 2017
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May 03, 2020 - 21:11 |
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Defo take both. dodge man can become a reliable ball carrier, +ag can become a receiver and ball sacker.
UW need to be a very spetialised team, everyone with a task and a plan.
If you want to go a different route and skip one or both, that is fine too, as long as you have a plan |
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Bendrig
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 03, 2020 - 21:19 |
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If it has to be one, AG. UW throwers tend to pick two heads and extra arms anyway and AG is better than both combined, so why skip it?
I'd personally go for dodge too, but can see the argument in favour of skipping it for MA or leader or block or whatever floats your goat, especially as a first skill. |
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krazeeEyezKilla
Joined: Jun 20, 2017
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May 03, 2020 - 23:33 |
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So far the overwhelming opinion seems to take both. My counter is that taking both caused my overall TV to be +70, taking +ag & Leader (and dropping a reroll) causes -10 TV, and taking Dodge & Leader (and dropping a reroll) causes -20 TV. This means ag is costing 90 TV or Dodge is costing 80 TV. I can't justify that on an early UW team (with which I'm already struggling).
So I'm still leaning toward taking one or the other. It seems that having a reliable ball carrier is more important than a sacker, so that points to taking Dodge.
Now someone please talk me out of passing on +ag  |
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det
Joined: Oct 01, 2017
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May 03, 2020 - 23:42 |
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I see no reason to skip either. Ag is an autotake for me on a uw thrower, dodge can be debated as it was a double 5...but I'd go dodge anyway.
Get a blitzer to tackle and a single gobbo to two heads/big hand and you can do awesome plays.
I'd have gone tents on the troll, but that's be being really uncertain of a trolls ability to do anything. |
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Kamahl
Joined: Oct 24, 2005
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May 04, 2020 - 00:10 |
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Take both.
At TV your team is playing currently, it will be all or nothing affair - do you get matched up with CDs or not. If you dodge that bullet, your team has all the tools it needs to compete, and those 2 rats will not represent bloat by any means. later on, you will have some interesting decisions to take - how do you want to develop them further.
(dodge rat will be more important as ball carrier early on, but that sweet sweet +ag rat can and should develop as ball retriever) |
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MercutioT
Joined: Mar 19, 2015
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May 04, 2020 - 00:20 |
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If you're wary of wasted TV on account of parallel development of two Ballers, then take the +AG with the one, and Mighty Blow with the double (followed up with Claw, Block, and Tackle). Underworld will always find need of another Claw+MB player. |
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smallman
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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May 04, 2020 - 01:42 |
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leader for sure, UW really need to minmax, they thrive if the other team has no mb/tackle |
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MarckusOfCamlan
Joined: Jul 20, 2017
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May 04, 2020 - 23:24 |
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Definitely take AG. Consider taking Strong Arm with the double. |
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krazeeEyezKilla
Joined: Jun 20, 2017
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May 05, 2020 - 01:34 |
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I ended up taking +ag and Leader. I agree with smallman that Leader is a must-have on UW. Thanks all for talking me into +ag over dodge. I would have likely taken dodge too if I was more experienced with UW. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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May 05, 2020 - 10:40 |
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+ag is gigantic on a ball carrier for an otherwise ag3 team. Even at low TV that confidence to pick the ball up is crucial. Also maybe to take an occasional 2+ dodge in a pinch.
Blodge of course will help him if he makes it down the line. |
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Muff2n
Joined: May 20, 2017
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May 05, 2020 - 12:28 |
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+ag on a carrier is gold.
I'd take guard on the double. I looooove guard. |
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MercutioT
Joined: Mar 19, 2015
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May 05, 2020 - 14:05 |
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| krazeeEyezKilla wrote: | | I ended up taking +ag and Leader. I agree with smallman that Leader is a must-have on UW. Thanks all for talking me into +ag over dodge. I would have likely taken dodge too if I was more experienced with UW. |
but... Leader is a normal skill for a Thrower... 
You would have had plenty of opportunity to take Leader down the line. Plus, you need your Leader to be on a player who is likely to last into the second half, and having Dodge/Blodge makes him so much more likely to survive that long...
Leader on a player with no defensive skills is madness. |
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