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sebco



Joined: Feb 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 00:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Was spectator of a NAF online game (supposed to be in BB 2020 if I don't miss something) and saw Claws and Mighty Blow used on same armour roll against an AV 9+ opponent :

Armour Roll [ 3 ][ 4 ]
Rolled Total of 7 + 1 Mighty Blow = 8
Gasult uses Claws to reduce opponent's armour to 8+.
The armour of Nice Hitts has been broken.


According to me, that's no more possible in BB 2020.
You can use Claws on armour roll then Mighty Blow on injury roll but not Claws AND Mighty Blow on same armour roll.

Claws skill description in BB 2020 rulebook : "a roll of 8+ before applying any modifiers will break their armour".

PS : thanks again for all your work on BB 2020 client

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C0ddlefish



Joined: Sep 17, 2019

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 01:22 Reply with quote Back to top

I think your interpretation is correct, have you got a reference for the game and turn so it can be validated?
tussock



Joined: May 29, 2011

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 07:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Recognised the player name, and the Yhetee. Very Happy

https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=4341564

Half 2, turn 1.

https://fumbbl.com/p/ruleset?id=2228

But that's the NAF ruleset, and it does not have Claw/MB do not stack ticked on the client options tab, so the client is working as expected.

Someone would have to ask NAF about them meaning to do that, I guess. Very Happy

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Stimme



Joined: Jun 30, 2013

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 14:59 Reply with quote Back to top

This was not a real bug, just a wrong setting in the NAF ruleset 2228.
Should be fixed now.
sebco



Joined: Feb 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 16:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Ok. Thanks for answers. Wink

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Medon



Joined: Jan 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 23:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Question, is this normal in the new rules? Do you still perform a jump after a failed tentacles roll? Even though you can't get away?

Mateo Ransisc tries to hold Glarald Helemenor with his tentacles:
Tentacles Roll [ 5 ]
Mateo Ransisc holds his opponent successfully.
Succeeded on a roll of 4+ (Roll + ST 5 - ST 3 >= 6).
Jump Roll [ 1 ]
Glarald Helemenor trips while jumping.
Roll a 3+ to succeed (Roll - 2 Tacklezones + 1 Leap >= 2+)
sebco



Joined: Feb 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 07, 2021 - 23:57 Reply with quote Back to top

No. Opponent movement ends. So there's no jump roll (nor dodge roll etc...) when tentacles hold player.

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Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 08, 2021 - 02:01 Reply with quote Back to top

Dunno if this is me just not knowing the rules, but my homegrown rotter has PA '-', unlike the regulars with PS 6+:

https://fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=14506705

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Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 08, 2021 - 02:11 Reply with quote Back to top

Also, probably me just being pernickety, if a player is dead does it need to stat 'm'?

https://fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=14499255

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tussock



Joined: May 29, 2011

Post   Posted: Nov 08, 2021 - 02:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Hmm, the raised rotter in game uses the correct stats, but he's hired as if a journeyman post-game, and that's come out differently to the usual Journeyman rotters, or the regular ones.

Anyone bought one to see if it's right after that?

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Kinks



Joined: Feb 28, 2007

Post   Posted: Nov 11, 2021 - 12:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Quote:
During step 4 of the post-game sequence, this player may be permanently hired, Exactly as you would a Journeyman player that had played for your team (see page 72).

Seems ok. Still the PA '-' seems odd or is that a journeyman thing?

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DaCoach



Joined: Jul 22, 2004

Post   Posted: Nov 11, 2021 - 12:39 Reply with quote Back to top

Kinks, we can fix his passing skill, but do hold to the issue so we understand why it happended, and fix it for the future
Chrisdekok



Joined: Aug 09, 2021

Post   Posted: Nov 24, 2021 - 21:17 Reply with quote Back to top

I didn't get any MVP in my last game with my Ogre team. It has happened one time before and I think it is related to using riotous rookies. Shouldn't rioutos rookies be included in the after game report like other journeymen and shouldn't I get the chance to hire the players after the game?
grant85



Joined: Dec 19, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 24, 2021 - 22:47 Reply with quote Back to top

a team in my league had the same issue as this. it must be a riotous rookies issues in post game
C0ddlefish



Joined: Sep 17, 2019

Post   Posted: Nov 24, 2021 - 23:06 Reply with quote Back to top

It's this bug
https://fumbbl.com/p/bugs?id/743
Feel free to add links form your games to it
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