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Thoughts on BB2020 Grashnak?
Good - Worth using
36%
 36%  [ 9 ]
Bad - Not viable, negatrait makes him too unreliable
36%
 36%  [ 9 ]
Mediocre - Not good or bad. Situational pick.
28%
 28%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 25


Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 13:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Grashnak's profile has been released.

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On one hand he has gained Unchanneled Fury (Wild Animal in the old rules) but has seen a massive cost reduction from 310k to 240k.

At a glance I was really disappointed he got a negatrait, but his hugely reduced cost I think helps significantly in terms of accessibility and his one off ability, which can get him an assured 3d blitz per game, could be good during certain situations. Tit for tat really.

What are your thoughts?
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:03 Reply with quote Back to top

240k........
Really.
Next Chaos/Skaven/Mutant star player to be released : Glart Smashrip Jr.
60k, STR 4, block, dodge, mighty blow +2, claw, safe pass, catch, stab, 2 heads.
Negatrait : he can die if you manage to kill him.

Really, GW. Really.............


Last edited by Azur on Nov 09, 2021 - 14:08; edited 1 time in total
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:07 Reply with quote Back to top

BBQ ! g00de BBQ ! Nothing more >< just utter shat.

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Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Azur wrote:
240k........
Really.
Next Chaos/Skaven/Mutant star player to be released : Glart Smashrip Jr.
60k, block, dodge, mighty blow +2, claw, safe pass, catch, stab, 2 heads.
Negatrait : he can die if you manage to kill him.

Really, GW. Really.............


Guessing you think he's too cheap in cost? Laughing

It is a huge drop, it's what makes me like him despite the addition of unchanneled fury.
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Indeed, Wolbum : I think it's a HUGE drop.
IMHO, too huge to be honest, if you know what I mean.
Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:12 Reply with quote Back to top

I got that with your star player example Razz. I like him overall honestly, Grashnak that is. Unchanneled fury is nothing new for me at least as I use Minotaurs enough anyway, but the cost reduction means he can actually used more than once in a blue moon.
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Star players are an excellent game element. They have always been an interesting (and exciting!) game changer.
But if they become too affordable AND over-powered, they become a game KILLER.
It's a shame....
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:23 Reply with quote Back to top

I challenge you both to save for stats on next rookie mino and pick str and move ><

(hint r00stered black BBQ cow)
Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Where did you see these stats were released? Is it a new Spike, or online content?
Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 14:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Kondor wrote:
Where did you see these stats were released? Is it a new Spike, or online content?


Some posted a SPIKE! Review on youtube.
SideshowBob



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 15:26 Reply with quote Back to top

Gored by the bull is cool. 3 dices when blitzing MorgMonster! Sign me up!
Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 15:47 Reply with quote Back to top

SideshowBob wrote:
Gored by the bull is cool. 3 dices when blitzing MorgMonster! Sign me up!


It is pretty cool, I can see it being useful during a critical situation or to apply pressure on on a flank. Kind of nice actually in that, you declare a blitz, pass, then announce you're going to use the Gore rule. I am guessing you voted that he was good?
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 15:48 Reply with quote Back to top

I am floating between Mediocre and bad; I think it tips over to bad most of the time.

Nothing wrong with the design but I hate big guys with negative traits normally. Cannot see ever taking a star with one when there are so many others with out.

New rules you can spend cash so an extra 20k for Borak seems better 97% of the time.

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SideshowBob



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 15:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Wolbum wrote:
SideshowBob wrote:
Gored by the bull is cool. 3 dices when blitzing MorgMonster! Sign me up!


It is pretty cool, I can see it being useful during a critical situation or to apply pressure on on a flank. Kind of nice actually in that, you declare a blitz, pass, then announce you're going to use the Gore rule. I am guessing you voted that he was good?


If I can hire him as an anti-Morg unit, I will spend every penny in my treasury Smile
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Nov 09, 2021 - 16:10 Reply with quote Back to top

He's ST6 and his special rule only works during a Blitz, at which time he'd have ST7 from Horns

So he'd be getting 3dice on most ST3 opponents anyway
Morg is ST6 so he gets 3dice on Morg without needing assists

He can hit a ST3 target with 4 opposing assists (or a ST4 target with 3 opposing assists) and normally would get only 1dice but can use the special rule to get 2dice

He can hit a ST4 target with 4 opposing assists (or a ST5 target with 3 opposing assists) and normally would get negative 2dice but can use the special rule to get positive 1dice?
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