Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 16:16 |
 
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I have some questions about matchmaking in blackbox.
This might not be the right place to ask them but it feels related to the box throphy as I'm currently playing it through with my first squad.
Is matching done by TV only or is also CR involved? For example would a draw involving 2 experienced coaches and 2 legend coaches all with the same TV have a higher probability of resulting in legend vs legend and experienced vs experienced?
The last days I've had difficulties to get matches with my low TV Ogre team and the matches I have got has been vs 4 low TV Snotling teams in a row. Has the rule treating TV lower than 1000 as 1000 been changed? |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 20, 2022 - 16:37 |
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As far as I can guess by direct experience in the Box, only TV and number of matches played by the teams are involved.
CR is not involved in the matching criteria. |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 17:43 |
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Thanks for your answer Matt!
Might explain why very few low ranked coaches seem to play in the box.
A bad matchup against a several tiers higher ranked coach is almost meaningless to play out in my opinion.
I like playing in the box because it eliminates the waiting time compared to picking and I have been forced to play higher ranked coaches wich sometimes have resulted in challenging and fun hard fought games.
Other times the game is decided already on the draw and not fun to play at all. I would prefer to be able to concede such games already at the draw step, would save both mine and opponents time. |
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C0ddlefish
Joined: Sep 17, 2019
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Aug 20, 2022 - 17:44 |
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| Chrisdekok wrote: | Is matching done by TV only or is also CR involved? For example would a draw involving 2 experienced coaches and 2 legend coaches all with the same TV have a higher probability of resulting in legend vs legend and experienced vs experienced?
The last days I've had difficulties to get matches with my low TV Ogre team and the matches I have got has been vs 4 low TV Snotling teams in a row. Has the rule treating TV lower than 1000 as 1000 been changed? |
CR is not included in matchmaking as far a I know.
The latter had changed. I thought it was now a maximum gap of 350TV for team with less than 15 games played (or something like that). Although I think I saw a game that broke that rule the other day - might have been chosen rather than random draw though |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 17:55 |
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The 350 TV gap maximum doesn't apply in the scheduler I can match a Snotling team with
240/60 TV against teams with a little over 1000 TV.
Is the 350 limit an extra rule only for the box? |
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C0ddlefish
Joined: Sep 17, 2019
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Aug 20, 2022 - 18:35 |
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I think so, because scheduling means you know what you are getting into. The 350 rule I think was brought into stop Morgflings preying on rookie teams in the box |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 20, 2022 - 18:44 |
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| Chrisdekok wrote: |
Other times the game is decided already on the draw and not fun to play at all. |
Cheers!
I think that without Cpomb/Piling On the unplayable match-ups are less common than in the old rules, unless you play super weak teams vs super good ones.
As long as you play a solid tier 1 team you should be fine, most of times.
Also, if you "force" yourself to play a very hard match-up in the Box your coaching should improve, no matter if you lose, the important thing is improving yourself. |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 18:45 |
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Thats sad, I was planning to use Bomber and Morg every game  |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 20, 2022 - 18:49 |
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Exploiter! <points the finger at Chrisdekok>  |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 18:53 |
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Using every dirty trick in the book is my only chance to stay ahead.
Plus I think it's completely in the spirit of blood bowl  |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Aug 20, 2022 - 19:14 |
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I don’t think the average box coach ranking is too high
It’s not wildly different from average coach ranking in R
Don’t be intimidated by it
You do need to play a strong team, and be ruthless with your TV management, if you want to do well tho
Just get into it |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 20, 2022 - 22:23 |
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I have gone through the matches I have played in box so far and it doesn't look as bad like my impression was. Majority of opponents were stars or emerging stars. I'll post the numbers a little later.
Regarding playing only the strongest teams at optimal TV, I understand this is the way to go to maximise winning. I just think its a much more boring option than playing a variety of teams and using every dirty trick I can think of to try to even the odds. |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Aug 21, 2022 - 06:18 |
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Snots are one of the stronger teams on low tv and scored at 2 points, mind you. |
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C0ddlefish
Joined: Sep 17, 2019
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Aug 21, 2022 - 07:00 |
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On the chart Christer produced to show the win rates and therefore tiers, Snotlings were the top race of the 2pt tier if I remember correctly. So only just missed being 3pts |
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Chrisdekok
Joined: Aug 09, 2021
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Aug 21, 2022 - 08:10 |
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That's one reason I don't like my Ogres being matched with Snots every game. Main reason is that it's much more fun to play against a normal TV team and use bomber and Morg.
My last game with Ogres was against Halflings so a litte variety at least. |
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