Wargraith
Joined: Sep 08, 2022
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Mar 11, 2023 - 16:49 |
 
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I am realizing that I have been guilty of participating in a lot of LLWing - That said I have been doing quite a bit of reading on strategies and helps for the first time.
I am realizing how small minded about the game I have been and that I have so much to learn. To my previous opponents who have dealt with my complaining - I offer my apologies.
My aim going forward will be to eliminate the whining.
Best of Luck to all and may the fields get bloody! |
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Klunker
Joined: Apr 02, 2021
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Mar 11, 2023 - 17:35 |
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No need to apologise. I've always enjoyed our games.
Some were emotional. As they should be. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Mar 11, 2023 - 17:55 |
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I always manipulate the RNG, so if we play, your bad luck will be real. |
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pedro_fgomes
Joined: Mar 25, 2018
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Mar 11, 2023 - 20:41 |
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I'm a big fan of whining, it's liberating. You should whine before, during, and after match. Less than that is rookie numbers! |
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Kinks
Joined: Feb 28, 2007
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Mar 11, 2023 - 21:03 |
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Whining is the best way to change your luck, it's worked for me on numerous occasions  |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 11, 2023 - 21:42 |
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Generally, I would consider whining to be bad. That I consider it bad, differentiates it from moaning or whinging. Which some other people may also consider bad.
Comment on the dice is fair enough. Though some newer coaches (and some older ones) blame the dice for their own ineptitude.
An ideal moan would be in universe, lamenting Nuffle or the players rather than "the Dice".
It can be a thing of beauty or a work of art.
Some people don't like whining because they sense that you are implying that they are a crap coach who is only winning because of the ******* dice. Which might of course, be true.
If it is true you may choose to commiserate kindly or wind them up mercilessly. Your choice.
Some people don't like whining because they suspect that you are not really whining. They may suspect you of engaging in some kind of psychological gamesmanship and attempting to tilt them.
The main problem with whining is that it sounds... well... whiney. That's how you'll know it from moaning or whinging.
I don't think that it is as easy to have the same level of respect for a whiner as a for good natured or in-universe moaner. |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Mar 11, 2023 - 21:57 |
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Koadah, just so you know, in North American english there is no such thing as "whinging" I had assumed from the first time I heard it until this moment that it was synonymous with "whining". |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 11, 2023 - 23:07 |
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| Macavity wrote: | | Koadah, just so you know, in North American english there is no such thing as "whinging" I had assumed from the first time I heard it until this moment that it was synonymous with "whining". |
"The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language." 
Well, I've learned something new today. 
What does "whine" mean in the US? Or other places where it is not viewed so negatively? |
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Macavity
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
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Mar 11, 2023 - 23:29 |
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Oh, it's negative, there is just no equivalent to whinge, I suppose. What does it actually mean? |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Mar 11, 2023 - 23:59 |
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Tripleskull
Joined: Oct 12, 2003
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Mar 12, 2023 - 00:35 |
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Oh man, nothing makes me whinge like an unfounded whine based on bad evaluations of the game state and irrelevant observations.
Good on you @Wargraith to move on to a state where you will notice opportunities to improve your game. |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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Mar 12, 2023 - 04:53 |
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| Wargraith wrote: | I am realizing that I have been guilty of participating in a lot of LLWing - That said I have been doing quite a bit of reading on strategies and helps for the first time.
I am realizing how small minded about the game I have been and that I have so much to learn. To my previous opponents who have dealt with my complaining - I offer my apologies.
My aim going forward will be to eliminate the whining.
Best of Luck to all and may the fields get bloody! |
Hope this wasn't about our game! I do the same thing but its funny how often you start getting upset about that then the dice do a 180 and your opponent just goes splat! Sometimes remembering all itll take is 1 or 2 bad rolls then it equalizes is enough. And if it still is too salty, a break sometimes helps.
Its an online exclusive problem in my opinion, because OTB you can laugh about it together with the other player. |
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Wargraith
Joined: Sep 08, 2022
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Mar 12, 2023 - 05:26 |
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Thanks for the support from everyone
@Carthage - it was in part due to the our game, but ive been really bad a couple times. Its just not the look or reputation I want to have in this community. In general this community has been very kind to me as a newer coach.
The main two i can think of are when i took a whipping from a Nurgle team where i learned how good Defensive can be as a skill, and another one where Mattdakka ripped me a new one with Guard spam dwarves in one of my first black box games lol |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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Mar 12, 2023 - 05:31 |
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I mean, raging against Dakka is basically a rite of passage for Fumbbl players. I took the theory of "if you can't be em, join em" and had him teach me how to elfball better |
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Halfabrain
Joined: Jan 20, 2018
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Mar 17, 2023 - 13:28 |
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I think whining implies that you think your predicament is someone else's fault whereas a whinge is a general bitch about the state of life, the universe and everything and is therefore more acceptable
But then perhaps I'm biased as I love an occasional good whinge myself |
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