Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Apr 04, 2023 - 06:24 |
 
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WHY does the Old World Dorf cost 5k MORE than his counterparts on the other Dorf Rosters?
They are all 3 basically the SAME player. except
*the Chorf gets some access to Mutations (making him more valuable)
*the Blocker lays in a unit built around him (making him more valuable)
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*OWorf has 2 WORSE SKILLS with Brawler and Arm Bar when compared to Block and Tackle (making him LESS valuable) PLUS he gets LONER 3+ too
How does THIS make sense?
ALSO... How much worse is Arm Bar and Brawler compared to Block and Tackle?
I have to admit I do not understand these NEW SKILLS (or newer)
I just know having Block and Tackle would be better on a SLOW, FAT, HEAVY BREATHING, WALL of FLESH and METAL, Thick Skulled, HAIRY, SHORT, DIRTY, SMELLY DORF. |
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Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Apr 04, 2023 - 06:26 |
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Also, how would you SKILL UP your OWorf's on your Old World team?
How would you skill your OW team in general? |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Apr 04, 2023 - 07:39 |
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Dont take OWA blockers ?
They ARE bad at GAME, exclamationmark |
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Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Apr 04, 2023 - 07:51 |
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Tripleskull
Joined: Oct 12, 2003
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Apr 04, 2023 - 09:38 |
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Comparing pricing across teams does not necessarily make sense, but they are horrible, and most likely not worth it. The only upside they have is AV and Guard access.
A wood elf lineman on a khemri team should probably cost 300k or more.
It is a real shame that they didn’t follow the “original†arm bar skill (Rough Tackle) which also costed one point of MA to escape. That would be a fun skill to see in the game. |
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Garion26
Joined: Nov 28, 2021
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Apr 04, 2023 - 13:07 |
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I think in BB16 OWA might have been over performing (OWA blockers had Block and Tackle) for BB2020 they nerfed the team a bit and probably over corrected in my opinion. Note PRO got better and that was a frequent build suggestion for OWA dwarfs in BB16 so that may have factored in. I think for BB2020 OWA the dwarf blockers are last on my list to purchase. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Apr 04, 2023 - 16:01 |
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OWA Dwarf Blockers with just Block (no Tackle) would have not been OP.
Also, they should have Animosity (all not-Dwarf team mates), not Loner. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Apr 04, 2023 - 16:27 |
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OWA Throwers and Runners would both be mediocre at 75k. OWA Blockers are hilarious, but should be 70k with the stuff they have now. The rest of the roster is fine. |
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ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Apr 04, 2023 - 23:30 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | Dont take OWA blockers ?
They ARE bad at GAME, exclamationmark |
I feel like if you don't take the OWA blockers, you are just playing as a worse human team |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Apr 04, 2023 - 23:32 |
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| ph0enyx13 wrote: | | you are just playing as a worse human team |
fify |
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amazingprizzini
Joined: Dec 08, 2009
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Apr 05, 2023 - 02:32 |
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As much as I like the AV 10+ armor, I like that they replace the skills for the dwarf blockers with two worse ones, gave them loner, and then raised their price as compared to the regular dwarf blockers. They sort of have a role on the team on LOS duty, but uh, they are, ahem, not great. |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Apr 05, 2023 - 03:20 |
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eh, i don't think of it as 'they are poorly priced dwarf blockers'. I think of dwarf blockers as stupidly underpriced, and an OWA dwarf blocker is actually reasonable. The AV, the thick skull, these are things i absolutely would take on a human lino. Their job is to get hit, and they do that job well - and that job doesn't need agility or MA.
However, I really do think this shows how badly priced dwarf blockers (and worse, chorf blockers) are. |
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ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Apr 05, 2023 - 03:32 |
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| JackassRampant wrote: | | ph0enyx13 wrote: | | you are just playing as a worse human team |
fify |
Which sucks, because before the nerf they were better humans
| amazingprizzini wrote: | | As much as I like the AV 10+ armor, I like that they replace the skills for the dwarf blockers with two worse ones, gave them loner, and then raised their price as compared to the regular dwarf blockers. They sort of have a role on the team on LOS duty, but uh, they are, ahem, not great. |
They are good at LoS blocks. If you aren't planning to spend a reroll, they are only a little bit less reliable than the tree doing 3 die blocks and better than rerollless 2 die blocks by the linemen. Also in theory they could provide guard, if they actually ever leveled. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Apr 05, 2023 - 04:07 |
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| Catalyst32 wrote: | | ALSO... How much worse is Arm Bar and Brawler compared to Block and Tackle? |
Arm Bar is the Don Dokken of Doing Damage. |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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Apr 05, 2023 - 05:16 |
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| Nelphine wrote: | eh, i don't think of it as 'they are poorly priced dwarf blockers'. I think of dwarf blockers as stupidly underpriced, and an OWA dwarf blocker is actually reasonable. The AV, the thick skull, these are things i absolutely would take on a human lino. Their job is to get hit, and they do that job well - and that job doesn't need agility or MA.
However, I really do think this shows how badly priced dwarf blockers (and worse, chorf blockers) are. |
Nelphine for president |
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