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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 02:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Or simply consider the Human Lineman as if he were a Thrall for Blood Lust.
About the cost-efficiency: if Claw is not involved I'd rather to have Human Linemen than Thralls.
10k more for +1 AV is not a bad deal.
paradocks



Joined: Jun 14, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 03:51 Reply with quote Back to top

This does look very cool. Being a die hard fan of 2nd edition however, what really got my juices flowing was the thought of Mixed Race Teams as implemented in 2nd edition Star Players addon. Basically there were three groups divided into good, neutral and evil. Some things wouldn't be possible like the separate dislike and animosity rules among other things but I think it'd add a little cohesion to the madness and stop rosters from reaching proportions of absolute madness. After all wasn't 2nd edition mad enough? Smile
WhatBall



Joined: Aug 21, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 04:37 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Or simply consider the Human Lineman as if he were a Thrall for Blood Lust.
About the cost-efficiency: if Claw is not involved I'd rather to have Human Linemen than Thralls.
10k more for +1 AV is not a bad deal.

Or set the value for all linemen that aren't undead as thrall. Let the vamps feed on everyone.

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Antithesisoftime



Joined: Aug 20, 2014

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 04:42 Reply with quote Back to top

WhatBall wrote:
MattDakka wrote:
Or simply consider the Human Lineman as if he were a Thrall for Blood Lust.
About the cost-efficiency: if Claw is not involved I'd rather to have Human Linemen than Thralls.
10k more for +1 AV is not a bad deal.

Or set the value for all linemen that aren't undead as thrall. Let the vamps feed on everyone.
+1
Silent_Hastati



Joined: Nov 04, 2014

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 07:19 Reply with quote Back to top

Just an update, my team of Ogres+Goblins just had all of the Goblins turn into Thralls, and are marked as having a ST injury, and lost all their skills. I'm assuming something is being worked on and playing games at this moment is ill advised?

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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 08:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Silent_Hastati wrote:
Just an update, my team of Ogres+Goblins just had all of the Goblins turn into Thralls, and are marked as having a ST injury, and lost all their skills. I'm assuming something is being worked on and playing games at this moment is ill advised?


Yeap, i was doing some changes on thralls and gobs last night due to the journeyman issue.

Now, it is SOLVED for teams of new creation, so you can keep on playing. For the time being, THRALLS are the default j-men. This might change in the near future as Human lino with thrall skill is getting ground.

Note: For those planning to use this or other massive rosters in their own leagues: The client selects the last 0-16, 0-12 that you created as default j-men. This is the way to go around it and set a j-men of your choice.
SzieberthAdam



Joined: Aug 31, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 11:30 Reply with quote Back to top

sonrises wrote:
SzieberthAdam wrote:
5. Review short names (for those who use abstract icons). Currently all icoans are L-s. It is hard to distinguish 90+ positions in two chars but something better can surely be done.i am not sure what you mean. Wink


I am badly color blinded and I am using abstract icons in the client which helps me to distinguish home and away players. Those are red/blue disc icons with some shorthand name upon them. You can switch to abstract icons in the client. The "Short name" option on the positionals (example -- currently set to "L") sets the text upon the discs. Yesterday I specced your match and all players were tagged with "L" which was not pleasing. Having hundreds of different icons are cool, but all 90+ positionals tagged with the same character is not.

What I would do like:
Amazon Linewoman: "aL"
Amazon Thrower: "aT"
Amazon Thrower: "aT"
Amazon Catcher: "aC"
Amazon Blitzer: "aB"
Beastman: "B"
Chaos Warrior: "cW"
Chaos Minotaur: "cM"
Hobgoblin: "H"
Chaos Dwarf Blocker: "xB" (Chaos Dwarf: "x")
Bull Centaur: "BC"
Chaos Dwarf/Pact Minotaur: "*M" (cross race: "*") / "Mi"
Marauder: "M"
Dark Elf Renegade: "§E" (Chaos Pact: "§")
Goblin Renegade: "§G"
Skaven Renegade: "§S"
Chaos Pact Ogre: "§O"
Chaos Pact Troll: "§T"
Dark Elf Lineman: "3L"
...
Skaven Linerat: "sL"
Skaven Blitzer: "sB"
Gutter Runner: "GR" / "sR"
Skaven Thrower: "sT"
Rat Ogre: "RO"
Slann Lineman: "↷L"
Slann Catcher: "↷C"
Slann Blitzer: "↷B"
Slann Kroxigor: "↷K"
...

Races (firt chars example):
Amazon: "a"
Chaos: "c"
Chaos Dwarf: "x"
Chaos Pact: "§"
Dark Elf: "3"
Dwarf: "d"
Elf: "e"
Goblin: "g"
Halfling: "f"
High Elf: "€"
Human: "h"
Khemri: "k"
Lizardmen: "l"
Necromantic: "†"
Norse: "↑"
Nurgle: "n"
Ogre: "@" (may not needed: Ogre: "O", Snotling: "S"
Orc: "o"
Skaven: "s"
Slann: "↷" (Clockwise Top Semicircle Arrow: U+21b7 -- I believe client handles unicode)
Undead: "u"
Underworld: "_"
Vampire: "v" (may not needed: Vampire: "V"; Thrall: "T")
Wood Elf: "w"

This is far from complete. I said it is hard. And surely not top priority. But some day it would be good to get resolved.

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sonrises



Joined: May 02, 2013

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 12:18 Reply with quote Back to top

@SzieberthAdam

Now i understand. No problem, i can set those, the option is there.
I will get on it when i have a bit of time.

o/
JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 13:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, I have to give this a try! So many possibilities .. Very Happy

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JellyBelly



Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 18:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Finally, I can make that Underworld team I've always wanted, that has Gutter Runners instead of gobbos. No-one will see it coming .. Razz

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jdm



Joined: Nov 30, 2011

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 18:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Seems a lot of teams think rerolls are for pussys, I say skills are for pussys

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Shraaaag



Joined: Feb 15, 2004

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 19:50 Reply with quote Back to top

I kept it simple, and just improved on an existing team

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BillBrasky



Joined: Feb 15, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 19:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Great in concept, but I fear this will lead to uber-cheese teams that make no sense. Mummies & War Dancers...

Oh well.
zakatan



Joined: May 17, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 20:29 Reply with quote Back to top

BillBrasky wrote:
Great in concept, but I fear this will lead to uber-cheese teams that make no sense. Mummies & War Dancers...

Oh well.


When I was explaining the concept to a friend i gave him this exact cheese example Laughing

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jul 05, 2016 - 20:32 Reply with quote Back to top

BillBrasky wrote:
Great in concept, but I fear this will lead to uber-cheese teams that make no sense. Mummies & War Dancers...

Oh well.


I thought that was the point. Mr. Green

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