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Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 12:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Rule question: does strong arm combine with dump off to allow dump offs to short pass range? Does the client handle this correctly if I make it part of a Dark Elf strategy?

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 12:26 Reply with quote Back to top

No, and client handles it correctly.

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Verminardo



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 12:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Quoted from CRP:

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Dump-Off (Passing)
This skill allows the player to make a Quick Pass when an opponent
declares that he will throw a block at him, allowing the player to get rid of
the ball before he is hit. (...)

Strong Arm (Strength)
The player may add 1 to the D6 when he passes to Short, Long or Long
Bomb range.


Does that sufficiently answer your question?
Grod



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 12:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Verminardo wrote:
Quoted from CRP:

Quote:
Dump-Off (Passing)
This skill allows the player to make a Quick Pass when an opponent
declares that he will throw a block at him, allowing the player to get rid of
the ball before he is hit. (...)

Strong Arm (Strength)
The player may add 1 to the D6 when he passes to Short, Long or Long
Bomb range.


Does that sufficiently answer your question?


Ah yes thanks. The rule definition has obviously been reworded in current LRB.

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Rabe



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 13:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Right... back in the days, Strong Arm changed the range (making a short pass a quick one etc.). That would be a lot of fun, especially with Dump-Off or TTM. As it is, Strong Arm is only useful for big guys who are very dedicated to the art of TTM and for a marauder built into a true thrower. And it's a poor man's accurate - but who would take passing skills without P access?

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zakatan



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 14:00 Reply with quote Back to top

Rabe wrote:
Right... back in the days, Strong Arm changed the range (making a short pass a quick one etc.). That would be a lot of fun, especially with Dump-Off or TTM. As it is, Strong Arm is only useful for big guys who are very dedicated to the art of TTM and for a marauder built into a true thrower. And it's a poor man's accurate - but who would take passing skills without P access?


wasn't DO a passing trait back then?

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Rabe



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 14:19 Reply with quote Back to top

No idea and too lazy to look it up. Wink But you may be right... A shame how everyone is spamming Dump-Off these days. You ain't got no chance to reliably blitz the ball anymore. Totally overpowered! Ah, well...

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 14:43 Reply with quote Back to top

zakatan wrote:
Rabe wrote:
Right... back in the days, Strong Arm changed the range (making a short pass a quick one etc.). That would be a lot of fun, especially with Dump-Off or TTM. As it is, Strong Arm is only useful for big guys who are very dedicated to the art of TTM and for a marauder built into a true thrower. And it's a poor man's accurate - but who would take passing skills without P access?


wasn't DO a passing trait back then?


nope just a passing skill. Strong Arm was a passing trait though.

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Verminardo



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 15:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Well not that it matters, but I got curious. Quoted from LRB4:

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Strong Arm (Passing Trait)
Reduce the range by one band (but never lower than ‘Quick’) when the player passes the ball. For example, a long pass is treated as a Short pass, etc. Strong Arm does not allow Short range passes with Dump Off or Long passes in a Blizzard.


They've got it covered. Wink
Foad



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 16:16 Reply with quote Back to top

It used to increase the range for TTM though...

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Apr 08, 2014 - 16:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Chavo wrote:
It used to increase the range for TTM though...
nope, it didnt, no one with TTM could take the skill because it was a P trait. However in my rules of bloodbowl it does just that Wink

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