Cyrus-Havoc
Joined: Sep 15, 2006
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Aug 15, 2020 - 12:47 |
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[quote="Uber"]The more I think about it, the more I realize the new skill system can only work with aggressive seasons and low cap.
This is an important point everybody should think about this. |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 13:53 |
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Done for my lovely team, Verjaling Fenders, still for 15 games, no cap:
Code: | #nr name games value cost
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#1 Jespr 50 150000 230000
#2 Arne 22 170000 210000
#3 Yngvar 21 130000 170000
#4 Petersen 1 50000 70000
#5 Tyge 14 50000 70000
#6 Finn 39 330000 390000
#7 Rolvsson 34 90000 150000
#8 Bentsen 5 50000 70000
#9 Leif 45 80000 140000
#10 Sorensen 51 170000 250000
#11 Ljungstrand 11 90000 110000
#12 Sorenson 4 70000 90000
#13 Kasparsen 48 110000 190000
#14 Kron 48 250000 330000
#15 Ovesen 23 150000 190000
#16 Jeti 51 220000 300000
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Players 2160000 2960000
Assets 390000 390000
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Total 2550000 3350000 |
Code: | Team Record: 15 (9/0/6)
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Base Budget: 1000000
Budget for Games Played: 300000
Budget for W/D/L: 180000
Treasury: 500000
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Re-Draft Budget: 1980000
Shortage: 1370000 |
Comments in next post. |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 14:08 |
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For the first look, I would be able to keep 4 key players and team would be re-drafted with 1750k TV and 10k in Treasury.
Code: | value cost
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#2 Arne 22 170000 210000
#6 Finn 39 330000 390000
#14 Kron 48 250000 330000
#15 Ovesen 23 150000 190000
7 x Lineman 350000 350000
1 x Berserker 90000 90000
1 x Snow Troll 140000 140000
1 x Catcher 90000 90000
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14 Players 1570000 1790000
3 Re-Rolls 180000 180000
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Re-Draft 1750000 1970000
Remaining 10000 |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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I think you’ll find very few teams buying more than 11 players on rebuy. It’s so easy to pick up linemen afterwards (1 a game with your winnings) you’re almost always better putting the funds into the agent fees or getting the positionals you want to start skilling into the team for game 1. |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Aug 15, 2020 - 15:07 |
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This rules set is really terrible for Chaos isn't it? |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 15:15 |
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For norse, a 11 men bench is too short. |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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SzieberthAdam wrote: | For norse, a 11 men bench is too short. |
In the long run, but probably not for a game or 2. For arguments sake, how would your team look with 2 re-rolls and 11 players?
Edit: also, looking at the players you’ve kept you have 3 +Str at 80k each in there. It seems like an example tailored to illustrate the point that you could only keep 4 players at that TV even without the cap, but it’s not a typical example of what a team will look like under the 2020 rules. Str 5 catchers aren’t going to be a thing. |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 15:21 |
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This is for Gift Of The Gab:
Code: | #nr name games value cost
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#1 Loquacious 26 200000 240000
#2 Be V 0 110000 110000
#3 On V 1 40000 60000
#4 Of II 19 160000 200000
#5 And III 85 210000 330000
#6 With V 7 60000 80000
#7 The IV 1 40000 60000
#8 A V 5 100000 120000
#9 To V 63 230000 330000
#10 I III 104 300000 440000
#11 Have III 72 230000 330000
#12 For II 34 220000 280000
#13 In VIII 17 260000 300000
#14 He II 7 40000 60000
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Players 2200000 2940000
Assets 210000 210000
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Total 2410000 3150000 |
Code: | Team Record: 15 (14/1/0)
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Base Budget: 1000000
Budget for Games Played: 300000
Budget for W/D/L: 290000
Treasury: 500000
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Re-Draft Budget: 2090000
Shortage: 1060000 |
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SzieberthAdam
Joined: Aug 31, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 15:34 |
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mister__joshua wrote: | SzieberthAdam wrote: | For norse, a 11 men bench is too short. |
In the long run, but probably not for a game or 2. For arguments sake, how would your team look with 2 re-rolls and 11 players? |
Code: | value cost
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#2 Arne 22 170000 210000
#3 Yngvar 21 130000 170000
#6 Finn 39 330000 390000
#9 Leif 45 80000 140000
#14 Kron 48 250000 330000
#15 Ovesen 23 150000 190000
3 x Lineman 150000 150000
1 x Berserker 90000 90000
1 x Snow Troll 140000 140000
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11 Players 1490000 1810000
2 Re-Rolls 120000 120000
Apothecary 50000 50000
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Re-Draft 1660000 1980000
Remaining 0 |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 16:29 |
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mister__joshua wrote: | For arguments sake, how would your team look with 2 re-rolls and 11 players? |
And this is how quickly we venture into weighing fluff and player longevity against competitive ability.
Already seeing the contours of a new meta wherein coaches will start bending over backwards to retain fluff.
Eg. "If I can just survive the first games with 11 players, no apo, and 0 RRs, I will be competitive around game 5 of the next season". |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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I think it depends on what your fluff is. If your team is looking to be competitive with some good fluff to go along with it it works well, teams IRL have to often cut players who are either not good enough or are too expensive.
If your team is entirely fluff, the new Competitive division might not be the place for them. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 17:13 |
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mister__joshua wrote: | If your team is entirely fluff, the new Competitive division might not be the place for them. |
Yes. That was my underlying point. I'd probably be forced to switch to a picking environment (edit: if wanting to play an entirely fluff based team). |
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thoralf
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 17:13 |
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That'd be a shame to lose And III. He has quite a personality. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 15, 2020 - 17:15 |
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thoralf wrote: | That'd be a shame to lose And III. He has quite a personality. |
Exactly. It won't affect the people naming their teams "Places I've heard of", and similar rubbish. |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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Verminardo wrote: | This rules set is really terrible for Chaos isn't it? |
It’s not great for them, but I don’t think it’s a disaster. They won’t be dominating at high TV anymore, but they’re meant to be Tier 2 and will perform decently at that level. The alternative Big Guys gives you a few more options too (I think both are better than the mino). |
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