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spubbbba



Joined: Jul 31, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 00:55 Reply with quote Back to top

bicarbonateofsteve wrote:
but i am bored of people whining about Blackbox.


Seconded, but about a month ago.

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westerner



Joined: Jul 02, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 01:22 Reply with quote Back to top

I am bored of people who don't play [B] griefing about [B] discussions in the [B] forum.

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Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 03:51 Reply with quote Back to top

amen westerner

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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 04:33 Reply with quote Back to top

For variety purposes why not create a rule that say you must submit 2 teams (or 3 teams) to the Black Box.
And at least 1 of the 2 (or 3) {or 2 of the 3} MUST be teams not considered to be bashers.
I think NWL's rules of what is a BASHER, BALLER or BETWEENER is appropriate to determine this.
This would allow a better diversity and would actually allow for some of the matchups you can't get in Ranked.
What do you think?
Kill-Kill



Joined: Nov 22, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 04:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Catalyst32 wrote:
For variety purposes why not create a rule that say you must submit 2 teams (or 3 teams) to the Black Box.
And at least 1 of the 2 (or 3) {or 2 of the 3} MUST be teams not considered to be bashers.
I think NWL's rules of what is a BASHER, BALLER or BETWEENER is appropriate to determine this.
This would allow a better diversity and would actually allow for some of the matchups you can't get in Ranked.
What do you think?



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No.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 04:56 Reply with quote Back to top

Catalyst32 wrote:
For variety purposes why not create a rule that say you must submit 2 teams (or 3 teams) to the Black Box.
And at least 1 of the 2 (or 3) {or 2 of the 3} MUST be teams not considered to be bashers.
I think NWL's rules of what is a BASHER, BALLER or BETWEENER is appropriate to determine this.
This would allow a better diversity and would actually allow for some of the matchups you can't get in Ranked.
What do you think?


Yes
westerner



Joined: Jul 02, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 05:53 Reply with quote Back to top

@Catalyst:
Yes, conditionally.

If you submit a balanced group of 3 teams as you describe, then you're able to leave some of your teams out (combining with the off-season idea from the other thread).

My idea is that bonus-type incentives for diversity would be preferable to a mandatory quota.

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shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 08:04 Reply with quote Back to top

i had a thought on how to balance things out....

split all of the teams into seperate categories....for example purposes, something similar to the categories that SWL/NWL uses....

any coach wishing to partake in the box has to have an even amount from each category...if you retire teams, you must build a new one for the retired divisions to remain compliant...if you are not compliant, you may not activate in the box...

ie: if you have 1 from category A, you have to have 1 from B & C also....if you have 2 in category A, you have to have two in B & C also...

also, the bonus for activating a specific team over another can still apply....

this will actually achieve two things....it'll encourage diversity, but still allow people to pick and choose what races they want to play within a limited range, while still allowing people to choose a preferred team in the activation system....also, it'll give the bot more team options when trying to compare for a matchup..

the only potential downside, is people not liking being forced to play races that they don't like...but in all fairness, i think there are very few coaches who couldn't find 3 different categorized races they don't enjoy playing...

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veron



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 08:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Think someone beat ya to it, shadow Wink
Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 08:42 Reply with quote Back to top

As long as one of the categories isn't all elves, I'm ok with that. I still think it's dumb, but enough people have bees in their bonnet about it that something will end up getting done, probably to the detriment of [B]. We may as well do it in such a way that the division isn't totally screwed up, and this is the least retarded option I've seen.

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Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 08:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Least retarded, yet retarded. So you play against fewer bashers. Big harry deal. If that is your agenda, play in ranked.

I say this despite the fact that I would be compliant under this circumstance.
CircularLogic



Joined: Aug 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 10:44 Reply with quote Back to top

veron wrote:
Think someone beat ya to it, shadow Wink


I think so, too. By about 2 months... Razz
pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 11:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Kondor wrote:
Least retarded, yet retarded. So you play against fewer bashers. Big harry deal. If that is your agenda, play in ranked.

I say this despite the fact that I would be compliant under this circumstance.


we bow before the wisdom of some 240 odd games...
sk8bcn



Joined: Apr 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 11:38 Reply with quote Back to top

Kondor wrote:
Least retarded, yet retarded. So you play against fewer bashers. Big harry deal. If that is your agenda, play in ranked.

I say this despite the fact that I would be compliant under this circumstance.


I'd propose you get a scheduler that increase your proba of playing one single identical team by 100%

Maybe, after 20 games against dorfs you will start to understand something.

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Snappy_Dresser



Joined: Feb 11, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2009 - 12:21 Reply with quote Back to top

If that's your [B] experience I'm sorry. But it's not my experience, nor is it any but an extremely vocal (and I suspect at least partially full of it) minority. And since I don't think I've ever seen you in [B], skate bacon old chap, why do you care?

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