sk8bcn
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| stormbolt wrote: | Yepp and here we are. 2 more teams retired and that's it for me. The last team ended up with an opponent 19points higher in TS, by turn 3 he had 5!!! cas on me and I conceded, never to return to the box again.
It was a nice idea, but it brings about a-holes that have no interest in winning the games, just destroying the other teams.
Blackbox - may it rot in peace! |
funny crappy cherrypicker:
Amazon 2 2/0/0 1.5 - 0.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 - 0.5 0.5 0.0 11 11
Chaos Dwarf 2 0/2/0 1.0 - 1.0 0.5 1.0 0.5 - 0.5 0.5 0.0 4 3
High Elf 1 1/0/0 1.0 - 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 0.0 1 -4
Norse 1 1/0/0 3.0 - 0.0 0.0 2.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 0.0 -2 -3
Ogre 1 1/0/0 2.0 - 1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 - 3.0 2.0 1.0 -12 1
Orc 3 1/2/0 1.0 - 0.3 1.7 0.0 0.7 - 0.7 0.0 0.0 2 12
Vampire 1 0/1/0 1.0 - 1.0 2.0 2.0 0.0 - 0.0 0.0 1.0 1 -2
Wood Elf 1 1/0/0 2.0 - 1.0 1.0 2.0 1.0 - 0.0 0.0 0.0 -3 15
It doesn't look like those 15 TS in ranked at your advantage doesn't pose you any problem, nah? |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:06 |
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you have played like 29 games in the box. I found 1 only at -15TS (137/141 vs 152/160).
You conceeded like 5 or 6 of them. You played only bashers. Most games have been fair.
I name your post Forum whinging. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:16 |
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| Synn wrote: | | westerner wrote: | | Snappy, the #1 factor for playing more [B] games cited in the poll was a competitive goal. Now that people can see their BR in [B] Central, there is something shoot for and hopefully that will encourage more games. |
Which do you think is more important for a competitive coach.... having a top BR.... or winning a major qualifier?
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I'd be a lot happier for #1 blackbox rating than for winning a qualifier. Because winning a qualifier would NECESSARILY imply some kind of cherrypicking on my part in the 10+ games before the qualifier itself.
Of course, I will never win a qualifier (because I don't cherrypick) and I will never be #1 BR (because I suck), so my opinion doesn't really matter 
ps: your Armor of Balls sucks. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:16 |
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| Plorg wrote: | Alternative proposal:
IF [number of fouls] < [number of forum posts complaining about fouling] THEN the coach is confined to playing in a happy care bear league with plush unicorns and RAINBOWS!
Who would miss em? |
Phew.. thank god I foul enough. I mean.. UNICORNS! *shiver* |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:27 |
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The box is great! Cheer!
I felt something positive was needed. I havent felt that the match-ups have gotten worse or anything. I still have great games almost every time.
On the subject: The start up is the same for all teams no? That means it can't very well be hard for everyone, more likely it's just as usual. |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:35 |
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On topic:
Whining about killerteams in the box is text book example of hipocrisy, when coaching chaos/rotters/khemri exclusively. I don`t see your rotters/chaos taking anything but claws on doubles and at the moment you foul more often than being fouled. Going though the matches that led to the retirement of your 7 teams, I see 5 concessions and only 2 matches where you were fouled more than once (twice in one game in thrice in the other). it rather seems that you just cannot stand playing at a slight disadvantage and with the same percentage of soft opponents like you do in ranked.
In short: You want to be the killer and not the killed. You just don`t have the skill for it so you blame the system.
And next time you suggest something, at least get your facts straight. The fixed cap isn`t 20 TS, it`s 15TS after handicaps. Even though I would welcome a further reduction of that cap, teams are scheduled close enough usually to have enjoyable game. I would also suggest coaching woodelves to reduce the detachment to your players. Then you would also be capable of winning against superior opponents with just 9 players (with abit of luck) after having 5 elves killed straight in a single match. |
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clarkin
Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:40 |
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| koadah wrote: | | [B] is better than open [R]. But open [R] is the price you have to pay to have a team that is competitive in [R] tournaments. |
Have to agree with this. I really enjoy [R] tournaments but trawling gamefinder looking for games is a special kind of hell; that's where blackbox is so fun. Plus the added kudos of battling on against the odds in an environment where you can't pick a 'soft' match when your team's a little battered; 5 dead woodies in one game... pretty epic! |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Feb 26, 2009 - 12:42 |
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Even if you are not a cherrypicker and tend to play anything, Open R has the huge advantage of letting you avoid jerks.
Nothing beats that. |
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pac
Joined: Oct 03, 2005
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Feb 26, 2009 - 13:02 |
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| JanMattys wrote: | | Of course, I will never win a qualifier (because I don't cherrypick) |
You don't need to cherrypick to win a qualifier. You just need to win three consecutive games. That does not necessarily require a seriously maxed-out team.
Winning a Major can be argued to be another matter, as it's very difficult to go through so many rounds without some nice build-up somewhere, but not a qualifier. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Feb 26, 2009 - 13:10 |
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| pac wrote: | | JanMattys wrote: | | Of course, I will never win a qualifier (because I don't cherrypick) |
You don't need to cherrypick to win a qualifier. You just need to win three consecutive games. That does not necessarily require a seriously maxed-out team.
Winning a Major can be argued to be another matter, as it's very difficult to go through so many rounds without some nice build-up somewhere, but not a qualifier. |
If you got my point (and I'm sure you did), then why do you indulge in nitpicking?  |
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pac
Joined: Oct 03, 2005
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Feb 26, 2009 - 13:55 |
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I did get your point, but I don't agree with it. You said:
| Quote: | | I'd be a lot happier for #1 blackbox rating than for winning a qualifier. Because winning a qualifier would NECESSARILY imply some kind of cherrypicking on my part in the 10+ games before the qualifier itself. |
And the second sentence is not - imo - true. It's especially not CAPS-WORTHY true.
(And I could equally easily say that being #1 in [B] rating would imply some kind of TS-fiddling, and thus counted for less.) |
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CircularLogic
Joined: Aug 22, 2003
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Feb 26, 2009 - 14:46 |
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So all I have to do is be #1 in [B] while winning a qualifier to a major to become the bb-god of FUMBBL?
Or does it just show that I have no life? |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Feb 26, 2009 - 15:43 |
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I think BR is potentially a better measure than CR because it's more uniform. The scheduling of matches is standardized in [B], whereas in [R] there are more variables in play: cherrypicking, recovery matches, personal white/blacklist, etc. Thus making comparisons of different BR's more meaningful.
| CircularLogic wrote: | | In short: You want to be the killer and not the killed. |
Yep. Quite a logical goal, IMO. But my preferred method to achieve it would be a combination of defensive positioning and preemptive bashing.
One thing the box has taught me (painfully) is how to defend vs gangfouls and how to foul strategically. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Feb 26, 2009 - 15:52 |
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Too bad topics like this one aren't "Too tough startup!" |
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westerner
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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Feb 26, 2009 - 16:00 |
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/me fouls Foul  |
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