shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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May 18, 2011 - 23:18 |
 
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sure is  ...i've been delaying and delaying and it's my own fault, and my apologies, but the wait is almost over... |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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May 26, 2011 - 19:52 |
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A possible way to handle the Secret Weapon issue (Since Kalimar said he wasn't opposed to a few coding changes) is to create a new skill (somewhat like the way Leader works), say:
Cheater - A player with this skill isn't just a habitual cheater, they're an expert cheater. These players understand that it isn't a matter of if the ref spots them, but when. Accordingly these players come prepared to deal with such an eventuality. Each player with the Cheater skill brings to the game sufficient coin to encourage the ref to look the other way. At the start of the match each team receives one free Bribe for each of their players with the Cheater skill who is available to play. |
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shadow46x2
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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May 30, 2011 - 20:46 |
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craft, that's actually a decent idea, and a good middle ground between LRB4 rules, and "perma-bribes" on rosters....
much better suggestion than the horrors...
but more importantly, i wanted to give an update on how things are going...my schedule this week is rough, as i'm leaving town this weekend for vacation and won't have time to finish this work up, but the bulk is complete, and i should be finishing off the roster changes by early next week at the latest...at that point it's off the the FFB crew to do their thing...
for the most part, i'm trying hard to migrate teams over as closely as possible to their LRB4 counterpart, but obviously some teams are going to need more molding, like squig herders....the only speedbumps at this stage are a concrete solution to the weapons problem, and making sure that obsolete skills (like blunderbuss on a few rosters) don't negate a team's punch & fun, and how to counteract the loss of that with the migration....
more to come when the rosters have left my hands...
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Rabe
Joined: Jun 06, 2009
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May 30, 2011 - 21:58 |
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Great news! \o/ |
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WhatBall
Joined: Aug 21, 2008
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May 30, 2011 - 22:21 |
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Shadow, let me know if you want/need a hand to make sure all the icons are together and ready for the new client. (No animations, etc.)
Looking forward to Stunty! |
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Aries
Joined: Apr 01, 2004
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Jun 05, 2011 - 22:42 |
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do we have an ETA yet? anything we can help to speed it along? whats left to do? |
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Woodstock
Joined: Dec 11, 2004
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Jun 05, 2011 - 23:09 |
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Implementation/Migration is mostly up to Christer in the end. But I assume you can start with updating rosters and such a like?... Ill give shadow a slap to pay some attention to this |
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Aries
Joined: Apr 01, 2004
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Jun 05, 2011 - 23:53 |
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I think that Cheater skill would make the transition near seamless. Just swap MB out for the RSC.
Chaos Halfling Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Carver 80000 5 2 3 6 Chainsaw, Dodge, Right Stuff ,Cheater GAM
0-16 Halfling 40000 5 2 3 6 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff AM
0-1 Head Carver 60000 5 2 3 6 Dodge, Right Stuff GAM
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: Chaos Minotaur
Star Players: Logan
Eshin Adepts Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-1 Eshin Assassin 90000 8 2 4 7 Dodge, Pro G A
0-3 Night Runner 60000 7 1 2 7 Dodge, Stab, Cheater A
0-2 Eshin Stalker 60000 6 2 3 6 Dodge, Shadowing, Stunty A
0-16 Eshin Adept 40000 6 2 3 6 Dodge, Stunty A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: None
Fairies Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-6 Pixie 50000 7 1 3 6 Dodge, Hypnotic Gaze, Stunty, Very Long Legs A
0-12 Brownie 40000 6 1 3 7 Dodge, Jump Up, Right Stuff, Stunty A
0-2 Leprechaun 60000 6 1 3 6 Dodge, Right Stuff, Strip Ball, Stunty G A
Re-roll counter: 50000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: Treemen (Note: Fairies may hire three Big Guys?)
Star Players: Wil-O The Wisp
Forest Goblin Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Spider Rider 90000 7 3 2 7 Bone Head, Dodge, Leap, Shadowing, Two Heads A S
0-2 Shaman 70000 6 2 3 6 Dodge, Hypnotic Gaze, Stunty G A
0-4 Stikka 60000 6 2 3 6 Dodge, Stab, Cheater, Stunty A
0-16 Forest Goblin 40000 6 2 3 6 Dodge, Stunty A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Fumlig da Venemuz Spida
Gnoblar Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-1 Ogre Gorger 130000 6 5 1 8 Big Guy, Frenzy, Mighty Blow, Thick Skull, Wild Animal S
0-1 Ogre Iron Gut 130000 4 5 2 10 Big Guy, Bone Head, Mighty Blow, Stand Firm, Thick Skull S
0-1 Ogre Maneater 130000 5 5 2 9 Bone Head, Mighty Blow, Thick Skull, Throw Team Mate S
0-4 Trapper 60000 5 2 3 7 Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Tentacles A
0-16 Gnoblar 30000 6 1 3 7 Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty A
0-2 Gnoblar Hero 50000 6 1 3 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff G A
Re-roll counter: 70000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: Ogre Gorger, Ogre Iron Gut, Ogre Maneater (Note: Ogre Maneater, despite not having the racial characteristic of Big Guy, still counts towards the Big Guy? limit of a Gnoblar team.)
Star Players: None
Gnome Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Daredevil 80000 5 2 2 8 Block, Dauntless, Frenzy, Right Stuff, Thick Skull G S
0-2 Dwarven Cannon 80000 2 3 3 10 Always Hungry, Blunderbuss, Throw Team Mate S P
0-4 Mad Bommaz 70000 4 2 3 8 Bombs,Cheater Dodge, Right Stuff, Thick Skull A P
0-16 Gnome 50000 4 2 3 8 Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thick Skull A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Cusimano - Gentle Giant, Deathroller
Goblin Cheaters Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Bomber 70000 6 2 3 7 Bombs,Cheater Dodge A P
0-2 Chainsaw 70000 6 2 3 7 Chainsaw,Cheater Dodge, Right Stuff A
0-2 Kicker 60000 6 2 3 7 Dirty Player, Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Kick A
0-2 Fanatic 50000 4 6 3 7 Ball & Chain Cheater A S
0-2 Pogo Stick 50000 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Pogo Stick, Right Stuff G A
0-12 Goblin 40000 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Fumlig da Venomuz Spida, Odster the Evil One
Horrors of Tzeentch Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Firewyrm 90000 4 6 4 7 Ball & Chain, BombCheater, Pro, Regenerate, Safe Throw A S P Ph
0-2 Flamer 80000 6 3 3 7 Bomb,Cheater No Hands, Pogo Stick, Regenerate, Safe Throw A P
0-2 Greater Horror 80000 5 2 3 7 Dodge, Jump Up, Leader, Regenerate, Throw Team Mate G A Ph
0-16 Horror 60000 4 2 3 7 Dodge, Jump Up, Regenerate, Right Stuff, Stunty, Throw Team Mate A Ph
Re-roll counter: 50000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: No
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: None
Nurglings Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-16 Nurgling 50000 5 2 2 7 Dodge, Stunty, Regenerate, Nurgle's Rot AM
0-2 Plaguebearer 80000 5 2 2 7 Foul Appearance, Guard, Stunty, Regenerate ,Nurgle's Rot, Disturbing Presence GAM
Re-roll counter: 70000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: No
Big Guys?: Beast of Nurgle
Star Players: SmallPox the Flatulent
Pygmy Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Jaguar Warrior 60000 5 2 3 6 Mighty Blow, Right Stuff, Shadowing, Stunty A
0-2 Alligator Warrior 70000 3 2 2 8 Right Stuff, Stunty, Thick Skull G A
0-2 Eagle Warrior 50000 7 2 3 6 Leap, Right Stuff, Stunty A
0-16 Pygmy 40000 4 2 3 6 Dodge, Stunty, Shadowing, Stunty A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: Kroxigor
Star Players: Leeloo Lion Tamer
Skink Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-1 Adept of Sotek 90000 8 2 3 7 Dodge, Stab, Cheater, Stunty A
0-2 Raptor 100000 8 2 3 7 Dauntless, Dodge, Frenzy, No Hands, Stunty G A
0-2 Whiptail 50000 8 1 3 6 Dodge, Stunty, Side Step A
0-16 Skink 60000 7 2 3 7 Dodge, Stunty A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Karazara The Relentless
Skryre Slaves Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-1 Deathroller 120000 5 3 3 10 Bone Head, Deathroller,Cheater Foul Appearance G A S
0-2 Mechavermin 90000 4 3 3 10 Bone Head, Mighty Blow, Stand Firm G S Ph
0-2 Sharpshooter 60000 4 2 3 6 Blunderbuss,Cheater Stunty A P
0-16 Slave 30000 6 1 3 6 Dodge, Guard, Stunty A
0-1 Poisoned Wind Globadier 60000 5 1 3 6 Dodge, Bombs, CheaterFoul Appearance A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Poisoned Wing Globadier
Snotling Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Pump Wagon 100000 5 6 1 5 Ball & Chain Cheater G S
0-4 Snotling Hero 40000 5 1 3 5 Dodge, Pro, Regenerate, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thick Skull, Two Heads A
0-16 Snotling 20000 4 1 3 5 Dodge, Regenerate, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thick Skull, Two Heads A
Re-roll counter: 60000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: No
Big Guys?: Troll (Note: Snotlings may hire three Big Guys?)
Star Players: Doom Diver Catapult
Squig Herders Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Squig Hopper 100000 6 4 3 7 Leap, Blood Lust, Mighty Blow, Sprint, Pro A
0-4 Squig 70000 5 4 4 7 No Hands, Blood Lust, Pogo Stick, Mighty Blows, Really Stupid A
0-16 Squig Herder 40000 6 2 3 7 Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thrall A
Re-roll counter: 50000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Fumlig da Venomuz Spida, Mad Gark The Tamer
Strigoyan Teams
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-1 Strigoyan Lord 110000 6 4 2 8 Blood Lust, Mighty Blow, Regenerate, Throw Team Mate, Undead G S
0-4 Vampling 60000 6 2 3 7 Dodge,Blood Lust, Regenerate, Right Stuff, Stunty, Undead G A S
0-12 Thralling 30000 5 2 3 6 Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thrall A
Re-roll counter: 70000 gold pieces each
Apothecary: Yes
Big Guys?: None
Star Players: Igor, Tasty Tom
Deeper Tombs
Qty Title Cost MA ST AG AV Skills & Traits Allowed Skills
0-2 Ancient Mummy 110000 3 5 1 9 Loner, Bone Head, Mighty Blow, Regenerate, Throw Team Mate S
0-2 Child Pharoah 70000 5 2 2 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff, Regenerate, Hail Mary Pass A, P
0-2 Scarab 60000 9 1 4 6 Dodge, Stunty, Regenerate, Foul Appearance, Disturbing Presence, Leap, No hands A
0-16 Child Corpse 40000 5 2 2 7 Dodge, Stunty, Right Stuff, Regenerate A |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Jun 06, 2011 - 06:26 |
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| Aries wrote: | | I think that Cheater skill would make the transition near seamless. |
Not quite, note that the only thing that gets you tossed is the Secret Weapon "skill", not the actual usable skill (bombardier, stab, chainsaw, etc.). Also, Stab doesn't normally get you ejected, whereas bombs and saws do, we would need to decide which illegal tactics are "obvious" enough to warrant the Secret Weapon "skill" and which don't. Then we decide which players are "Cheaters" and which one's just cheat.
| Aries wrote: | | Just swap MB out for the RSC. |
Hmm, I hadn't noticed that the restriction on MB for ST 2 had been removed... |
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SvenS
Joined: Jul 07, 2007
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Jun 06, 2011 - 10:12 |
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| WhatBall wrote: | Shadow, let me know if you want/need a hand to make sure all the icons are together and ready for the new client. (No animations, etc.)
Looking forward to Stunty! |
You can find the old icons in my sig!
Looking forward to stunty mayhem again!  |
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mr-maverick
Joined: Sep 10, 2010
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Jun 06, 2011 - 10:13 |
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Craft makes a good point about what weapons to ban and which not to, pogo stick for example doesn't get a goblin sent off in ranked but a saw does
Before the migration happens we could really do with weapons working, at the moment ball and chain and bombs don't work properly, does anyone have any idea when these will be working? |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jun 06, 2011 - 10:34 |
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Like the changes you made to the rosters Aries. Though Squigs should definately have PO instead of MB in my opinion. It just fits them so much better. |
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Aries
Joined: Apr 01, 2004
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Jun 06, 2011 - 12:19 |
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Jag war is the only 2str one right? He was actually claw not RSC before can just leave him regular claw and scare the team BGs
I'm completely ok with PO squigs!
Chainsaw, Bombs, B&C, Deathroller,= Secret Weapon
Stab = freeride(since it's not poisoned anymore/darkies)
Blunderbuss = freeride, just to get it used!
That's my opinion |
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xyon
Joined: Apr 19, 2005
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Jun 06, 2011 - 13:10 |
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Would it be easy to just make bribes cheaper for stunty teams? They're 100k normally, 50k for goblins, why not 10k or 5k for stunty teams? with no maximum ammount of bribes able to be purchased? |
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mr-maverick
Joined: Sep 10, 2010
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Jun 06, 2011 - 14:01 |
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If it was me I'd do bribes at 40k for all teams and 20k for goblin cheaters, making them part of the roster so they are bought permanantly.
I'd give Jaguar warriors Stab rather than claw, its actually more in keeping with the fluff as meant to represent a weapon anyway (I'm sure I'm right about that).
I wouldnt make any weapons freeride except perhaps blunderbuss and pogo stick.
PO squigs is interesting but I dont know if that would work as you can have a couple of riders and a couple of squigs per team, especially considering the amount of fouling done in stunty leed |
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