Aflo
Joined: Jun 16, 2009
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Oct 26, 2012 - 17:30 |
 
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I think it would be a nerf if it were made less good as it's just alright as it is. What I like about it is it's different, making it more risky would just make it a chainsaw-lite. Fine as it is I reckon'. |
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Dan-Da-Man
Joined: May 14, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 17:53 |
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| noobie2k7 wrote: | | Stab is great. |
Its that great thats why you dont have a single team that has stab? or is it that the teams that do have stab are complete rubbish..... but how can they be rubbish if stabs great? |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 17:57 |
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| Dan-Da-Man wrote: | | noobie2k7 wrote: | | Stab is great. |
Its that great thats why you dont have a single team that has stab? or is it that the teams that do have stab are complete rubbish..... but how can they be rubbish if stabs great? |
Stab doesn't make the team. . . i would have thought you'd know better.
Not sure if your comment could even be serious so i'm just going to leave it there. |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Oct 26, 2012 - 18:55 |
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stab is reasonable; when it works, its great, but it doesn't work all that often. Sure it's a free shot; but even on AV6, the chance of doing anything more than a stun is: 35%. Or about a 5+.
And I think a 5+ is totally reasonable, as if you don't manage to stun, then you get smashed in the face and have almost the same odds of being removed yourself. (If not far better because you were trying to stab a big guy who's going to crush your face.) |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 18:59 |
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well, sometimes that stun is enough, especially when there is no actual risk involved of turnovers etc. Plus unlike Saw stab is totally optional and works with multi-block. It has a lot of utility.
edit: plus it is always risky to leave guys in a stabbers TZ's whetehr you'd get a 2d+ or not as stab cares not. It's not only useful on offence but makes the opponent worry about things more than if there were no stabbers. Passive psychological uses. |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Oct 26, 2012 - 19:01 |
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Sure, it's got lots of good things. I'm saying that it's reasonable, even with all those things. |
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Dan-Da-Man
Joined: May 14, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:01 |
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But i love the way people think forest goblins are good because of stab, There not good at all the spiders are not even hard to take out being only AV7 which is the same as a goblin, then you have the forest goblins which are same price as all other goblins but AV6! oh but every thing is ballanced because they have stab lol (sarcasm). |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:12 |
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when did i ever mention anything about forest goblins? or as you still being sarcastic? i can't tell. . . . |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:14 |
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Personally I don't see a problem with stab, is it more a problem with forest goblins having 4, that don't have SW now?
Who actually has stab?
Eshin 2
Faries 1 star player that seems to play a lot.
Forest Goblins 4
Skinks have 1 right? |
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Dan-Da-Man
Joined: May 14, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:16 |
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| noobie2k7 wrote: | | when did i ever mention anything about forest goblins? or as you still being sarcastic? i can't tell. . . . |
I didnt say you, people in general say they are fine because of the stab. |
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noobie2k7
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:21 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: | Personally I don't see a problem with stab, is it more a problem with forest goblins having 4, that don't have SW now?
Who actually has stab?
Eshin 2
Faries 1 star player that seems to play a lot.
Forest Goblins 4
Skinks have 1 right? |
and mincemeat the mad butcher the chaos fling star player. Stab + Multi-block on him. |
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Synn
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:43 |
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From a fluff standpoint, why should forest goblins have more stabbers than eshin? |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:45 |
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| Synn wrote: | | From a fluff standpoint, why should forest goblins have more stabbers than eshin? |
Eshin could have a couple of assassins to replace the stalkers. Stalkers need to go, and need go hard. |
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Synn
Joined: Dec 13, 2004
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:55 |
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| harvestmouse wrote: | | Synn wrote: | | From a fluff standpoint, why should forest goblins have more stabbers than eshin? |
Eshin could have a couple of assassins to replace the stalkers. Stalkers need to go, and need go hard. |
The last thing Stunty should want is more free actions.
Forest Goblins should be axed totally. The Stikkas were originally players armed with 'stakes' (+1 to AV rolls). They were given 'stab' since stakes disappeared in the new ruleset.
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Oct 26, 2012 - 20:59 |
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| Synn wrote: | | harvestmouse wrote: | | Synn wrote: | | From a fluff standpoint, why should forest goblins have more stabbers than eshin? |
Eshin could have a couple of assassins to replace the stalkers. Stalkers need to go, and need go hard. |
The last thing Stunty should want is more free actions.
Forest Goblins should be axed totally. The Stikkas were originally players armed with 'stakes' (+1 to AV rolls). They were given 'stab' since stakes disappeared in the new ruleset.
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One assassin as a cheap star then maybe. Forest Goblins for me are one of the best themes in stunty, should definitely stay IMO. |
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