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stej



Joined: Jan 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 13:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Bloodbowl 2013
Bloodbowl : Road to World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : 2015

Surely a business model like this couldn't possibly work...

In all honesty, if they can make a good AI for it then it'll be worth a look for those who dont have regular free time to play here.
PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:29 Reply with quote Back to top

stej wrote:


In all honesty, if they can make a good AI for it then it'll be worth a look for those who dont have regular free time to play here.


Interesting....this implies they do have free time to play, might not be regular but it is free.

I thought that was the strength of Black Box. I got free time, hit activate and play.

Now in the end each coach must decide for himself...Do I play against a fellow human on FUMBBL or some AI spawn on my platform or PC version of some other game. Only they can choose.

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dode74



Joined: Aug 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Thing good thing about an AI that you can pause it for as long as you want. You can't (legally) do that with a real opponent.
The bad thing about an AI is that unless it is actually competent then you will get away with stuff a human wouldn't let you get away with, making you a worse player in the long run.
PainState



Joined: Apr 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:33 Reply with quote Back to top

stej wrote:
Bloodbowl 2013
Bloodbowl : Road to World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : 2015

Surely a business model like this couldn't possibly work...



It is a very good model...they spend 10 million Euro on focus groups and found this out.

You mention the word World Cup in the context of Blood Bowl and the euro fans of the game will buy it no matter what. They just have this compulsion that World Cup/Blood Bowl....Iam all in. Where can I buy it?

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dode74



Joined: Aug 14, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Of course, if they were to rename it World Series... Wink
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:47 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState wrote:
stej wrote:


In all honesty, if they can make a good AI for it then it'll be worth a look for those who dont have regular free time to play here.


Interesting....this implies they do have free time to play, might not be regular but it is free.

I thought that was the strength of Black Box. I got free time, hit activate and play.

Now in the end each coach must decide for himself...Do I play against a fellow human on FUMBBL or some AI spawn on my platform or PC version of some other game. Only they can choose.


You still need an hour to play.
People get the hump if get you get interrupted too often, are too slow, want to play in a certain way.

You get vilified if you don't want to play in the 'right' way with the 'right' kind of team.

A good AI would be pretty handy.

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harvestmouse



Joined: May 13, 2007

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 14:48 Reply with quote Back to top

PainState wrote:
stej wrote:
Bloodbowl 2013
Bloodbowl : Road to World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : World Cup 2014
Bloodbowl : 2015

Surely a business model like this couldn't possibly work...



It is a very good model...they spend 10 million Euro on focus groups and found this out.

You mention the word World Cup in the context of Blood Bowl and the euro fans of the game will buy it no matter what. They just have this compulsion that World Cup/Blood Bowl....Iam all in. Where can I buy it?


He's making fun of the fifa series, that fans buy the new 'slightly' updated version 7 times every 4 years.

1. The always name the game 1 year ahead.
2. You get a world cup qualifying game and then an actual world cup game.

This formula must be nearly 20 years old now, the first one was out on the megadrive I believe.
shadow46x2



Joined: Nov 22, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 15:38 Reply with quote Back to top

i like the american version of blood bowl...

Madden Blood Bowl 2010
Madden Blood Bowl 2011
Madden Blood Bowl 2012 - Tebow Edition
Madden Blood Bowl 2013
Madden Blood Bowl 2014

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Jose_Gorinyo



Joined: Jul 02, 2012

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 15:42 Reply with quote Back to top

A far better marketing approach in today's day and age would be:

Sell base game (only Orcs and Humans playable)
Sell additional squads as DLC

Pretty much how GW already does it
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 15:51 Reply with quote Back to top

They tried DLC on Dungeon Bowl.

FIFA/Madden must cost about £30/40 when they come out. Blood Bowl CE was £8. £6 if you waited.

That's cheaper than a donation to keep the servers running. Wink

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Mr_Foulscumm



Joined: Mar 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 16:06 Reply with quote Back to top

I hope it's as good as the current Cyanide game.

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mrt1212



Joined: Feb 26, 2013

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Well as long as thry arent using the gamebryo engine it should be better.
stej



Joined: Jan 05, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 27, 2013 - 16:38 Reply with quote Back to top

My reference to free time and AI was more in the context of league. Id love to play some league but cant commit to the games regularly. If there was an AI, I could play through half a league one weekend then leave it for a month and finish it off. this would be quite fun!

And yes, FIFA was my mockery target of choice
Deniz87



Joined: Aug 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2013 - 21:37 Reply with quote Back to top

harvestmouse wrote:
"SkittleDiddler says:

Because no one else is willing to say it, I will: the die rolls in Blood Bowl are fixed. The developers should be ashamed of coding in an AI cheat system."

Hehehe cute! Raging over the AI!


well,it really cheats lol
Synn



Joined: Dec 13, 2004

Post   Posted: Mar 17, 2013 - 21:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Just curious...

How many attempts will Cyanide get to completely kill Bloodbowl?

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