JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jan 19, 2014 - 17:56 |
 
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Beast sux until you are like 2.2k tv - and even then he kind of sux. |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 19, 2014 - 18:03 |
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Ah. Well that seems pretty unequivocal... |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Jan 19, 2014 - 18:38 |
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That's just box logic though.
League logic is different. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jan 19, 2014 - 19:38 |
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3rd reroll because your team has not many skills and no ball handler. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Jan 19, 2014 - 19:43 |
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| licker wrote: | That's just box logic though.
League logic is different. |
Naaa he sucks in league as well. |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 19, 2014 - 23:32 |
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Ah. Well that seems pretty unequivocal... |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 20, 2014 - 01:29 |
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| Garion wrote: | | licker wrote: | That's just box logic though.
League logic is different. |
Naaa he sucks in league as well. |
Was that aimed at me?  |
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licker
Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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Jan 20, 2014 - 04:01 |
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| Garion wrote: | | licker wrote: | That's just box logic though.
League logic is different. |
Naaa he sucks in league as well. |
Then why do you have one? |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Jan 20, 2014 - 05:05 |
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Ag 3 ball-handling needs 3 RR's.
A team w/ no core Block/Dodge skill (on at least some of their players) needs 3 RR's.
Newer coaches need 3 RR's.
Your Nurgle team needs 3 RR's.  |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 20, 2014 - 05:20 |
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I already have the 3RR!!! Just thinking of how to develop. |
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licker
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Jan 20, 2014 - 05:32 |
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development for L is much more driven by the teams you face
Well that's also true for box, but in box you tend to face a lot of cpomb teams as your TV goes up. Thus the value of the beast is somewhat lessened as he is far more easily removed.
If you get guard and stand firm on the beast he becomes a real pain for most st3 teams (and teams which have trouble getting their own guard). Of course he's much much better with block, as are all BGs. He doesn't need pro as much though since you frequently don't need/want to move him or throw blocks (until you get grab). |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Jan 20, 2014 - 06:35 |
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| DrPoods wrote: | | I already have the 3RR!!! Just thinking of how to develop. |
Sorry, went off of your OP...
| DrPoods wrote: | | I have 160k in the bank and am deciding whether to buy a 3rd RR or a Beast of Nurgle. |
As for the Beast, he is unlike any other BG, and as such needs to be treated differently. Because the last thing you want is to lose TZ on opposing players, you block less with him, so he tends to skill up slower. He often does better work where he is than somewhere else, so you don't ~tend~ to move him, so Break Tackle is not as important as on some other BG's. And since you can often get away with planning on taking no actions with him, he doesn't need a baby-sitter, despite the RS negatrait.
He absolutely sucks if one tries to use him like any other BG, stomping around the field w/ St 5 MB. However, if used wisely (and you are not unlucky - but that's true for any BG) - he ~can~ be gold.
On my L Nurgle team, I plan to take the Beast before my 4th Pesti. Pests skill up fast enough, and I want to get the Beast as many chances at MVP as possible. Plus - as many above point out - he IS kinda what puts the fun in Nurgle. |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 21, 2014 - 02:47 |
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Yeah. If I am blocking with the Beast it is either because things have gone very wrong or he is away from the play and I want to try for a CAS.
Good call though. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Jan 21, 2014 - 13:43 |
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You should have got the 3rd pest before the beast, or just never got a beast.
I guess you will have to learn the hard way instead of listening to advices! |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Jan 21, 2014 - 14:10 |
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| JimmyFantastic wrote: | You should have got the 3rd pest before the beast, or just never got a beast.
I guess you will have to learn the hard way instead of listening to advices! |
I actually had 3 Pestigors. One died a couple of games ago. For some reason (I honestly am at a loss) I bought the Beast. Thinking about it now, I have no idea what I was thinking at the time. I am sure I had a good reason for buying it.
But you are right @JimmyFantastic, the Pestigor was the sensible play. I guess that if I can get a 60k winnings then I can buy the Pestigor straight away. It does seem that having the full complement of Pestigors is the optimum route.
Damn. I feel like a right fool now. And I will just say again, I certainly would not ignore advice from far far better coaches than I.
I am at a total loss. |
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