uuni
Joined: Mar 12, 2010
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Sep 29, 2014 - 15:38 |
 
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I do not think that pushing a Prone player onto ball with Ball&Chain should be a turnover, as the Prone player does not attempt a pick up. If this occurs with the client, it may be a bug, I think. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Sep 29, 2014 - 15:40 |
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you missunderstand. We were talking about the rule where the ball and chain player moves on the the square with the ball, it causes a turn over. This is handled correctly in the client. We were just saying it is a poor rule.  |
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uuni
Joined: Mar 12, 2010
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Sep 29, 2014 - 16:01 |
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| the_Sage wrote: | What I found more surprising was that
-you can turnover by pushing prone teammates
-you can turnover by pushing onto the ball (it's not a failed pickup because you have no hands, should be the same as pushing a teammate onto the ball imo) |
Garion: Maybe indeed. I understood the above as pushing a Prone player on the ball (and bounces). No Hands skill should only apply if the player attempting the pick up has it. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Sep 29, 2014 - 16:31 |
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yar easy mistake, he is talking about 2 different things, movign on to the ball being 1, the other being pushing a prone player with B&C |
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tmoila
Joined: Nov 25, 2012
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Sep 29, 2014 - 16:39 |
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Pushing and injuring your prone player isn't turnover by the rules. |
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RedDevilCG
Joined: Jan 09, 2010
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Apr 19, 2015 - 02:15 |
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A bit of a necro, but something similar occurred in a game I just played. I hit my own player with ball & chain and PoW'd my player prone. The client then caused a turn-over. I read the ball & chain rules, and I didn't see where it says that knocking your own players prone causes a turn-over.
Am I missing something, or is there another rule in the book I'm not thinking about that states knocking your own players prone causes a turn-over? |
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Igvy
Joined: Apr 29, 2007
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Apr 19, 2015 - 03:44 |
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Yep, you are. There are overarching turnover rules.
However it is in the same rulebook. |
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RedDevilCG
Joined: Jan 09, 2010
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Apr 19, 2015 - 05:42 |
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So the same goes for Bomber, Wizard, TTM causing your own player to go prone? |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Apr 19, 2015 - 10:14 |
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Leilond
Joined: Jan 02, 2012
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Apr 19, 2015 - 10:20 |
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The rules are very clear, in the TURNOVERS chapter
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The following events cause a turnover:
1) A player of the moving team is Knocked Down
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Thus, unless a special rule state otherwise, when a player is KNOCKED DOWN, it's a turnover
As an example, in the right stuff rule it says:
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A failed landing roll or landing in the crowd does not cause a turnover, unless he was olding the ball
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It is very clear for me. If you're knocked down, it's a turnover, unless there is a special rule that prevent it |
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RedDevilCG
Joined: Jan 09, 2010
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Apr 19, 2015 - 23:47 |
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Cheers! That's the rule I wasn't remembering. |
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