ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Sep 05, 2016 - 09:11 |
 
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The hard counter for undead and lizards are wood elves. The hard counter for Dorfs and Orcs is claw. So what is the counter to woodies? |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Sep 05, 2016 - 09:14 |
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Guard, surehands and pitch removal whether that means TPOMB or Fouling.
And even then you have to use your noggin. They're a good team, is what it is. |
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zhraia
Joined: Aug 09, 2006
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Sep 05, 2016 - 09:23 |
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There is no hard counters, except dwarfs vs amazons/stunties.
Versus wood elfs you need players with block, tackle and/or mighty blow. Guard, Diving tackle, piling on and the like are also great. |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Sep 05, 2016 - 09:33 |
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Well-built humans and orcs (multiple tackle killers, guard support, dp linemen) can often rip through wood elves.
BTW, I think wood elves are more a counter against chaos than they are against undead; undead tend to get tackle earlier, to get blodge sure hands earlier, and to foul more. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Sep 05, 2016 - 09:57 |
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Tackle and MB are good counters vs WEs. |
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ph0enyx13
Joined: Nov 14, 2015
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:18 |
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| the_Sage wrote: | Well-built humans and orcs (multiple tackle killers, guard support, dp linemen) can often rip through wood elves.
BTW, I think wood elves are more a counter against chaos than they are against undead; undead tend to get tackle earlier, to get blodge sure hands earlier, and to foul more. |
Aren't wood elves the only team that has a winning record vs undead in NAF tournaments? |
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jarvis_pants
Joined: Oct 30, 2008
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Starting woodelves dont have many skills or re rolls. So teams that make them roll alot of dice work well. Halflings are therefore the natural enemy of woodelves  |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:24 |
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| Code: | if (wardancer on ground) {
foul
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:41 |
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| jarvis_pants wrote: | | Starting woodelves dont have many skills or re rolls. So teams that make them roll alot of dice work well. Halflings are therefore the natural enemy of woodelves |
Don't you say this about all the teams?  |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:48 |
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It's not so much roster as it is build. Fast(ish) hitters with TacklePOMB, enough Guard and Sure Hands on the ball carrier.
At high TV Nurgle also have a good counter, they often have a Beast and a +ST Warrior with Tents and Stand Firm, and 5x Distrubing Presence, so very hard to one-turn against and generally very good at locking you down, if they position well. |
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Mr_Foulscumm
Joined: Mar 05, 2005
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:56 |
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Nurgle is the paper to everyone's rock. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Sep 05, 2016 - 10:57 |
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Orcs, humans and Norse are all good at killing elf teams imo |
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Medon
Joined: Jan 28, 2015
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Sep 05, 2016 - 11:12 |
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Humans are the true bane of wood elves. Fast players, tPOMBers and sure hands BC. Woodies are powerless against that.
Norse are too squishy and orcs too slow. |
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Grod
Joined: Sep 30, 2003
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Sep 05, 2016 - 11:34 |
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Here are some fun stats from tabletop: http://naf.talkfantasyfootball.org/tr_110.html
Only Dwarves have a (very slightly) positive win expectation at 110 TR vs Wood Elves! |
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Wreckage
Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Sep 05, 2016 - 12:52 |
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Gotta agree with foulscumm. Nurge counters everything.
It's not rock paper scissors, it's rock rock paper. |
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