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Sirdave79
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2009

2009-07-11 13:55:19
rating 2.9
2009-07-09 19:04:31
rating 4.2
2009-07-07 16:43:18
rating 2.8
2009-07-11 13:55:19
25 votes, rating 2.9
Observations and evolution
As ive already said, I like to build my teams, I like to build great players, id be very upset at losing a good player, I dont foul (until now) and I dont like being fouled. Id rather BH ur players than SI or RIP. If I could choose all my ingame casualties to be BH I would. I dont care what anyone else says about that I stand by it. If you cross me, I will cross you, thats the sort of person I am. Although I am very aware that sometimes it wont work out in an advantageous fashion for me, I'll do it on principal, cause I think I, you, everyone should. Its the last line of deffense for dealing with people who will shaft you.

I played against an amazon team recently, having already created an amazon team and played a few games myself. This guy was pretty darned good or so say I, and he beat me comprehensively and well. At one point early in the game I think he set up his whole team (nearly... evil grin) deffending his ball carrier one square away from his TD. This guy in my opinion was a little bit rude, but far from the worst id played, so tbh getting a pounding on the pitch, not enjoying the chat, and cursing the good fortune (and skill) of someone who I considered to be a bit scummy. Anyways, I was quite peeved at his stalling and the way it went down and so I chose, for the first time I think, to foul his rather fragile player on the deck with everything I had rather than using my fewer players to try to get the ball off him and probably injure more of my players. Now he didnt like this very much and (in my head I heard a whiney drone) I would run it in if you threatened my ball carrier. I thought, FUCK YOU, ive got 7 plaers left how in the hell do you expect me to get it. So I settled for putting the boot in. I dont think I did any damage with my foul, I didnt care but what it did do was make him run it in. He started with more players than me and scored again. The foul, in my opinion made him start talking to me and made him stop stalling which might not have worked against slightly higher av teams. After what I perceived to be him breaking the ice in as amiable fashion as possible. He was still rude in my opinion, I told him he had a talent for being insulting without trying which he laughed off, saying I am american. Later as the game drew to a close he said "bloodbowl makes me forget that there are other people at the other end of the internet". Anyways he scored again for maybe 3, and truth be told after he started talking I enjoyed the game much more, even tho i got hammered, and I actually chose to make the first foul of the match for the first time ever without damaging anyone and to achieve, what in my mind was an honourable goal.



I watched purplechest lose in a SMACK (scheduled) recently against vaclav. It was really quite something to watch. Ive never seen multiple people speaking in grey chat whilst spectating before. I watched this game having read lots of people say watch the really good coaches to improve. I picked it up from turn 2 or 3 I think and watched it till the first turn or two of overtime.

The dark elves got the ball next to the opposing end zone and set up the whole team deffending that square. Now my first impressions when I saw this were something like, M.........r, if I was playing this game I would be seriously pissed. I think that a couple of fouls went in from the Delves and the player numbers tipped to 3 or 4 in their favour. I thought the game was over at this point. I would have been seriously demoralised. The Norse carried on pumping away, and did their best. As I recall the delves went in 1 0 at half time with 3 or 4, maybe even 5 player advantage, altho both teams had subs.

I watched the second half and slowly things got better for the norse. A ko or two, a badly hurt, and a death, definately a death for the delves, I cant remember if this was from a DP foul or not. Anyways, the norse managed to get the ball get it to the end zone of the delves and by the end of the half the player advantage had slipped back to norse and purplechest was saying "this is not my game". After 8 turns I would have disagreed, after 16 I would have betted my house on that statement. The norse won in the end, it was a great match to watch and I reckon I learned lots from it.

At 16 turns I thought to myself "I should not, I will not, its not always best to stall". I cannot help but feel that stalling was the wrong decision for the delves.

Now respect and kudos to both coaches cause they would both destroy me in any game im sure. If ive said something offensive or insulting that was a mistake. I know nothing, I just wanted to share my thoughts and was curious what if anything people would say about what ive decided to write here.

So, I still probably wont foul you if you dont foul me, but as someone aid to me, there are 6 actions and if you refuse to use one then ur reducing ur chances of winning. Accepted, and I will now use it if the circumstances are right, but I can lose a game and take damage without fouling.

In life, there are maybe 1,000,000 million actions are available, 900,000 of which are probably bad, harmful to others whatever. Will you be more successful in life if you use the 900,000, or even some of those actions ?

Almost definitely so. Will I use them ? No. Will I be less successful ? Yes. Will I be angry frustrated depressed by most people using them ? Yes. Will I stab you in the back if I think you deserve it ? You bet your granny on it, if someone plays dirty with me (and im not talking about making the first foul now), all bets are on. I am not here (planet earth not FUMBBL) to be shafted by anyone.
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Posted by Elminster on 2009-07-11 16:21:25
Comparisons between a board game and real life: full of fail
Posted by def909 on 2009-07-11 17:10:21
Whether you like fouling or not is entirely up to you, but you should stop taking fouling personal. You´re not playing a real game of football where you might be rightfully pissed if there are fouls. It´s a board game where fouling is one of the 6 options a player has.
From personal experience (because when I started playing BB I hated fouling just as much as you do) you will have much, much more fun if you stop caring about your teams/starplayers.
Posted by SillySod on 2009-07-11 20:06:11
In terms of the norse vs darkies game I am relatively sure that stalling was the right decision. Stalling made sure that they were 1-0 up at halftime. Scoring earlier would have made it more likely to become 1-1 at halftime than 2-0 so its more likely to lead to a wors position.

Obviously in a given game where the luck suddenly wings it might not be the best decision but theres no way PurpleChest could have known it was going to be one of those games - its just as likely that the luck could have flipped in the same half.
Posted by Russo on 2009-07-11 21:13:42

Look mate, you only have 35 games so its early days. When I started I did not foul on here either, after 200 games I realised its great. Both to foul and also to get fouled.

Your fun changes so much when you break that psychological barrier. Tactically there are risks in fouling so some games I chose not to, its about learning when fouling suits you, and when your opponant has the upper hand in any fouling war, you refrain.

Remember its not personal, its a rule that has always been part of the game. What you are saying is no different to if I declared passing actions to be rude and that if anyone passed the ball against me I will get upset and take it personally.

Relax and learn to love the boot :D
Posted by maysrill on 2009-07-11 21:26:07
It's silly to get upset at someone stalling on you. Stalling out a half is the goal of any slow team and usually even the fast ones.

It was also silly of him to get mad for you fouling him. If he had "his whole team" at the goal line except for the one you were fouling, it's his fault for stranding that player. It was also silly of him to score if that's the only reason. Especially if you're a No-DP person, I'd let you foul every turn if you wanted, getting guys called off 50% of the time.
Posted by Sirdave79 on 2009-07-11 23:12:37
Its funny, the first 5 rates had me at 4.6, but no comments, I have come back and loads of comments that seem well negative and the rating has dropped under 3.

You may think its silly for me to get upset when people foul me. I have described why I dont like it, so that is the end to it. This most recent blog is me choosing to write about my ..... observations, what i have thought and what I have felt after some games and 2 weeks in FUMBBL. So I am wrong irrelevant and up tight.

Well maybe im not talking to you ? Maybe im talking to other new coaches are going through some of what I am. Maybe some people appreciate that other people have a different point of view and can share each others.

In my posts I have tried to describe now seeing fouling as something to be useful at times, coming from a place where i didnt do it at all. Maybe thats the evolution part of the blog title ? The person who criticises me for getting upset at fouls tells me that the circumstances im describing warranted a foul, and it received one. So that a difference.

It is intriguing to me that a game I played would reach a similar position to the game I described watching and I note the similarities without doubting that the coaches in question are far better players than me (did you read my post ?). Purplechests game could not have gone much worse for him in the 2nd 8 turns in my opinion, so what i say is this, if he had run it on and spent 5-6 turns trying to get the ball off the norse he might have scored again. Yes luck is obviously a factor, but if we cant have a conversation about a match maybe we shouldnt talk at all just play ? Maybe you think "who the hell is this guy criticising a top coach?"

Who indeed the hell am i?

no one.

Im just writing some fluff, maybe the next time somone writes something people could be a bit less bashy ?

As for 10 word replies to somone who bothered to put a bit of time and effort into writing something for other people to appreciate or not, "full of fail"

Its called an analogy, see above.

I disagree with most of these comments
Posted by def909 on 2009-07-12 01:16:48
I rated it a 2, not because it wasn´t well written but because taking anything that happens on the pitch personal is the exact opposite of the true spirit of this wonderful, bloody, hilarious game called BB. I think many coaches (including me) dislike fouling/took it personal when they start playing here. Eventually (hopefully) they learn to see fouling as what it really is: Just one of six options a players has, no different from blocking. I highly recommend playing some stunty league games. Stunties die in droves and there´s lots of fouling and general mayhem. Ingame chats during stunty games are also usually very friendly so I think it´s the perfect place to get into the true BB spirit. If you are unsure if you really got into the true spirit of the game there is an easy way to out: Take one of your teams (make sure to get at least one DP) and play a match against PaulHicks. If you still have a smile on your face looking at the remainders of your team after the game you know you got it! (Shouldn´t be too hard anyway as he is a really nice guy to play against who will cheer if you kill one of his players)