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2009-10-24 23:38:05
40 votes, rating 2.7
40 votes, rating 2.7
Please Mr. lrb5, help to avoid teams getting smashed by 'get the ref'
With the Bloodbowl-boardgame i always (in the last years) played the lrb5. It was cool, loved it.
Then most of my buddys moved away and some time later we discovered fumbbl. It was really great for us BB-addicts to have a nice working community, play some games, first in ranked, then we discovered blackbox to avoid all this cherrypicking in ranked. We did it, they did it, its the "regular" way to play av7 with your bashers to help them get skills.
At this time me and my buddys noticed 'get the ref' was way overpowered, but just dont play multi-dp-teams and the problem isnt very big.
BB is sweet, you play whatever you get, go go. Okay, the variety in high TS teams isnt very wide spread and it really sucks when you play khemri, ogre, orcs and chaos in 8 out of 10 games orcs (and get smashed most of the times) but thats the game.
But: You can't avoid to play those multi-dp-teams. khemri with 7 of them making every game to a 'gtr' game for them... 'gtr' vs other teams with multiple-dp's is just team cracking and i'm still a guy who likes every single of his teams. This might change a a few hundred more games, but it's still that way.
I already started to have more dp's in my teams to have the same chances in fighting back in a foul-war.
So: GoGo lrb5-client, work properly, and bring me a blackbox with lrb5rules... lrb4 will NEVER see me again
Thx for your attention and best greetings to all the coaches who might have the same thinkings as me :-)
Then most of my buddys moved away and some time later we discovered fumbbl. It was really great for us BB-addicts to have a nice working community, play some games, first in ranked, then we discovered blackbox to avoid all this cherrypicking in ranked. We did it, they did it, its the "regular" way to play av7 with your bashers to help them get skills.
At this time me and my buddys noticed 'get the ref' was way overpowered, but just dont play multi-dp-teams and the problem isnt very big.
BB is sweet, you play whatever you get, go go. Okay, the variety in high TS teams isnt very wide spread and it really sucks when you play khemri, ogre, orcs and chaos in 8 out of 10 games orcs (and get smashed most of the times) but thats the game.
But: You can't avoid to play those multi-dp-teams. khemri with 7 of them making every game to a 'gtr' game for them... 'gtr' vs other teams with multiple-dp's is just team cracking and i'm still a guy who likes every single of his teams. This might change a a few hundred more games, but it's still that way.
I already started to have more dp's in my teams to have the same chances in fighting back in a foul-war.
So: GoGo lrb5-client, work properly, and bring me a blackbox with lrb5rules... lrb4 will NEVER see me again
Thx for your attention and best greetings to all the coaches who might have the same thinkings as me :-)
Comments
Posted by Zombie69 on 2009-10-25 00:01:47
LRB5 sucks. Big time. Long live LRB4.
Posted by spubbbba on 2009-10-25 00:03:55
Ummm, LRB5 actually encourages brainless fouls more than 4.
Get the ref is less likely but it applies to both teams. You should be asking for LRB6, that just gives both sides a bribe and fixes that silly riot kick of result.
In LRB4 you can actually use fouling effectively even if the other team has the ref, whilst the Khemri are gang fouling a rookie lino you bash their squishy AV7 dps or isolate and foul their mummies out.
Get the ref is less likely but it applies to both teams. You should be asking for LRB6, that just gives both sides a bribe and fixes that silly riot kick of result.
In LRB4 you can actually use fouling effectively even if the other team has the ref, whilst the Khemri are gang fouling a rookie lino you bash their squishy AV7 dps or isolate and foul their mummies out.
Posted by Fela on 2009-10-25 00:44:29
GTR isn't about multiple DPs btw, one DP is enough to do the damage then. Multiple DPs actually help mostly against GTR since you can keep your opponent worrying about the eye enough even if your team riscs send offs and he doesn't.
Posted by Hogshine on 2009-10-25 01:09:24
Yay for people admitting picking! \o/
Posted by pythrr on 2009-10-25 02:14:31
GTR is funny.
Pixels getting smashed is funny.
Learn to smile and laff at the game.
Nuff said.
Pixels getting smashed is funny.
Learn to smile and laff at the game.
Nuff said.
Posted by SillySod on 2009-10-25 02:26:58
More than two DPs in [B] is pretty dumb. Ever since they got rated at 5TS extra per skill..... not exactly gamebreaking stuff to have seven :/
Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2009-10-25 06:38:44
Oh boo-hoo.
Posted by Pirog on 2009-10-25 16:26:46
I haven't actually played LRB5, but the way niggles are handled in it seems to make it a lot less drastic to get fouled even if the dp skill would work as in LRB4. In long term team building perspectives a niggle is often the same thing as a RIP in LRB4, which makes dp's very costly.
The problem with multi-dp teams that fouls a lot is not that they are impossible to beat, but rather than most often you end up losing economically even if you beat them.
The problem with multi-dp teams that fouls a lot is not that they are impossible to beat, but rather than most often you end up losing economically even if you beat them.
Posted by McVily on 2009-10-25 19:13:33
Death is end of cycle of everything in existance.
It's simple not natural wishing your virtual teams to live longer then you.
I say: kill them all :D
It's simple not natural wishing your virtual teams to live longer then you.
I say: kill them all :D
Posted by karix on 2009-10-26 05:17:55
Let me get this straight. You like Blackbox because there is no picking. But you are complaining there is no way to avoid multi-DPs?
May I also point out that if you played in ranked.. and offered/accepted fair games that aren't cherry flavour you could also avoid multi-DPs.
Or you could join a well managed league that has race diversity as part of its selection criteria (Shameless Plug: SUCH AS SWL). Much more fun, still get multi-DPs but at least they're dirty elves and not dirty orcs :P
May I also point out that if you played in ranked.. and offered/accepted fair games that aren't cherry flavour you could also avoid multi-DPs.
Or you could join a well managed league that has race diversity as part of its selection criteria (Shameless Plug: SUCH AS SWL). Much more fun, still get multi-DPs but at least they're dirty elves and not dirty orcs :P
Posted by maysrill on 2009-10-26 13:23:13
If your just starting to realize that DP is the defense against GTR, you're on the verge or realizing that GTR isn't that bad. I'll grant you, it's still one of the better KO results, but it's not a guaranteed win or a guaranteed team-wrecker.
Have DPs, keep FF high. The first will keep you fighting back at 31/36 efficiency (the chance for being called off an not arguing it). The second will help you WIN the GTR, and create the same problems for your opponent that you are describing here.
If you can't manage either of those, keep away from big bad [B] and stick to picking in Ranked. As someone's already pointed out, if you offer FAIR matches (not cherrypicking av7's like a jerk) people without DPs are often more than happy to play other DP-less teams.
Props for admitting the cherrypicking though. I know I do it too, but I try to reign myself in as much as I can.
Have DPs, keep FF high. The first will keep you fighting back at 31/36 efficiency (the chance for being called off an not arguing it). The second will help you WIN the GTR, and create the same problems for your opponent that you are describing here.
If you can't manage either of those, keep away from big bad [B] and stick to picking in Ranked. As someone's already pointed out, if you offer FAIR matches (not cherrypicking av7's like a jerk) people without DPs are often more than happy to play other DP-less teams.
Props for admitting the cherrypicking though. I know I do it too, but I try to reign myself in as much as I can.