Harad
Joined: May 11, 2014
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:00 |
 
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So I am trying to get a reasonable ranking with every race in ranked and in the box. Most are fine. I imagine gobbos and flings will cause me a serious headache. But ogres...
In ranked I could pick way too much to give myself a chance but in the box it feels hopeless.
I was checking through the top ranking coaches and see many seem to have played before the 6 ogre limit was enforced.
This is hardly riveting stuff but things are slow at work so...
Are ogres in the box a lost cause or does anyone have any evidence or theories on how they can work? At least enough for me to aim for a reasonable ranking. |
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deyempe
Joined: Aug 14, 2013
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:04 |
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just use 16 snots and a boat load of rr's. jk |
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Cloggy
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:10 |
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The problem here lies in the way you define your goal. There is simply no way even the finest Ogre coach in the world can get a high rating for Ogres in the Box. They simply suck too much.
What you CAN achieve is to have a high rating for an Ogre coach in the Box. Don't set yourself up for too much frustration by aiming for targets you never achieve. |
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pizzamogul
Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:24 |
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The top 3 ARR! Ogre coaches all had winning records last season: Ogre. Perhaps take a look at the builds and watch some replays to see how they managed it.
Ogres were my favorite LRB4 team, just the perfect blend of hopeless and potential to be a fun challenge to coach and manage the roster. CRP Ogres are... well, they ruined them and they're just not fun anymore. |
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Harad
Joined: May 11, 2014
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:27 |
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Thanks Cloggy and Pizzamogul.
Cloggy what would you say is a good rating? I have naively been going off the 'rookie -> legend' ratings. |
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Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:34 |
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CRP bent Ogres over and took them to browntown.....shame really, they were a fun team  |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:34 |
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| Harad wrote: | Thanks Cloggy and Pizzamogul.
Cloggy what would you say is a good rating? I have naively been going off the 'rookie -> legend' ratings. |
A "good rating" would be to win the ARR Ogre. 
| Calcium wrote: | | CRP bent Ogres over and took them to browntown.....shame really, they were a fun team |
6 ogres are enough IMO but I'd give them back goblins.
That may be a bit too strong under O[L]C rules though. |
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happygrue
Joined: Oct 15, 2010
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Feb 03, 2015 - 16:35 |
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But Harad, they can still do fun things...
More seriously, I think the 4 ogre build in the box is the wrong way to go. 5 ogres 2 RR seems to me to be the way to start them in the box. Try that, and do recall that a winning record is possible, though I wouldn't set your sights much higher than that.
Also: Come join ARR! |
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Kryten
Joined: Sep 02, 2003
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My CRP only ARRgres have piled up a solid 14/4/14 record, playing primarily in Black Box Brawls. My blackbox ogre CR is 140.98. Ignore the Ranking, play for fun. |
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pizzamogul
Joined: Jun 13, 2005
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Feb 03, 2015 - 17:19 |
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| koadah wrote: | | 6 ogres are enough IMO but I'd give them back goblins |
I'd even follow the Stunty Leeg lead and instead of having a worthless single Snot running around, turn that position into a Snotling Mob with regen and thick skull to represent the group "reforming" after being spooked by a member or two getting creamed. |
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cdassak
Joined: Oct 23, 2013
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Feb 03, 2015 - 17:23 |
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| pizzamogul wrote: | The top 3 ARR! Ogre coaches all had winning records last season: Ogre. Perhaps take a look at the builds and watch some replays to see how they managed it.
Ogres were my favorite LRB4 team, just the perfect blend of hopeless and potential to be a fun challenge to coach and manage the roster. CRP Ogres are... well, they ruined them and they're just not fun anymore. |
As the ARR historian I must add that these 3 were the first winning Ogre sprints.
Dont look for CR, breaking the Ogre sprint record or winning a Brawl with them are two nice goals HARRad. But above all have fun and kill all mens |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Feb 03, 2015 - 18:01 |
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| pizzamogul wrote: | | koadah wrote: | | 6 ogres are enough IMO but I'd give them back goblins |
I'd even follow the Stunty Leeg lead and instead of having a worthless single Snot running around, turn that position into a Snotling Mob with regen and thick skull to represent the group "reforming" after being spooked by a member or two getting creamed. |
Nice. I'll try that when we get the option.
Wasn't there once a rule that extra snots could sneak onto the pitch? |
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DukeTyrion
Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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Feb 03, 2015 - 18:11 |
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| koadah wrote: |
Wasn't there once a rule that extra snots could sneak onto the pitch? |
In BB2 a Big Guy would cost 2 normal players, and you could field 2 snotlings for a normal player.
I used to have a team which fielded an Ogre, 8 normal players and 2 Snotlings. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Feb 03, 2015 - 18:23 |
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Yeah koadah. It was in 4th ed gold I think then later in a fanatic magazine. Snotlings were 0-30, for every snotling on the pitch at the start of a drive you would roll a d6: 1 nothing happens, 2-5 - 1 extra snoring is placed next to the one on the pitch, 6 - 2 extra snotlings are placed.
It was an amazing rule lots of fun, and it should never have been got rid of. |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Feb 03, 2015 - 18:43 |
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I just wish Ogres could TTM Snotlings to Long Range! |
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