Kalessin
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:05 |
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Kam wrote: | Quote: | Failure to bite a
Thrall is a turnover and requires him to feed on a spectator – move the
Vampire to the reserves box if he was still on the pitch. If he was holding
the ball, it bounces from the square he occupied when he was removed
and he will not score a touchdown if he was in the opposing end zone. |
By, you can't pass the ball to a really stupid troll either. Is it working as it's supposed to? |
In the question given, the bone-headed ogre already had the ball (so he's holding to it, even tough he doesn't know really well why he has that funny leather stuff that's not a goblin in his hands).
I think he scores the td, and someone tells him afterwards what he has accomplished |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:14 |
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Yes... it is a TD, he has the ball and stands in the end zone
/thread |
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Lolthsmeat
Joined: Aug 08, 2014
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:29 |
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daresay this instance will become a bit more commonplace with the distract card now in play |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:52 |
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radge wrote: | I fully agree with Roland - that rule really irritates me as there is no logic to it. Any player holding the ball in the endzone should count as a touchdown. |
Think of a "touchdown" as a rugby-style score, not a (American) football style. So you don't just "break the plane" of the goal and stand (or run) there, but you have to push the ball down onto the ground there to score.
In Rugby, if you can hold the ballcarrier (or just his ball-hand) off the ground, it doesn't matter where he's standing.
BL'd Vamps don't bother actually stopping to "touch the ball down" - a technical but necessary formality.
(Don't ask me how this interpretation deals w/ BH/etc.
Also... it's a game. Get over it.) |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:54 |
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Smeat wrote: | radge wrote: | I fully agree with Roland - that rule really irritates me as there is no logic to it. Any player holding the ball in the endzone should count as a touchdown. |
Think of a "touchdown" as a rugby-style score, not a (American) football style. So you don't just "break the plane" of the goal and stand (or run) there, but you have to push the ball down onto the ground there to score.
In Rugby, if you can hold the ballcarrier (or just his ball-hand) off the ground, it doesn't matter where he's standing.
BL'd Vamps don't bother actually stopping to "touch the ball down" - a technical but necessary formality.
(Also... it's a game. Get over it.) |
Which is fine.... except that the Stupid Troll/Bonehead Ogre/Hypno-ed player does touch the ball down? |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 01:55 |
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(cross edit)
Maybe in BB he has to "stop" there - and the Vamp doesn't stop.
There. |
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gamelsetlmatch
Joined: Mar 05, 2013
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Nov 11, 2014 - 02:14 |
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tmoila wrote: | Kam wrote: | By, you can't pass the ball to a really stupid troll either. Is it working as it's supposed to? |
Boneheaded or really stupid or gazed players automatically fail all catch rolls. |
*If* the player was holding the ball already but went bonehead..
..couldn't you just chain push him in for the score? |
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monk12
Joined: Feb 23, 2013
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Nov 11, 2014 - 02:28 |
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tmoila wrote: | Dunenzed wrote: | tmoila wrote: | Kam wrote: | By, you can't pass the ball to a really stupid troll either. Is it working as it's supposed to? |
Boneheaded or really stupid or gazed players automatically fail all catch rolls. |
So you can bean them with the spiked ball? |
In effect, yes.
Gaze
-> handoff spiked ball
--> free stab
---> new meta is born |
...can you even hand off to an opposing player? I need to go play another test game. |
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Smeat
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 03:03 |
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gamelsetlmatch wrote: | ..couldn't you just chain push him in for the score? |
Um... welcome to the conversation. See OP (or
monk12 wrote: | ...can you even hand off to an opposing player? I need to go play another test game. |
??? - no.
The only counter-argument, for NOT scoring w/ BH, is that the player does not have a move to take. BUT, if the Defense can cause a score while it's their Turn... I'd think there should be no diff here.
(Now, what if the D pushes a BoneHead in? Could they still try to knock the ball loose or push him OB? Do they deserve the option to try?) |
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zakatan
Joined: May 17, 2008
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Nov 11, 2014 - 03:51 |
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monk12 wrote: |
...can you even hand off to an opposing player? I need to go play another test game. |
The answer to this is yes. You can even hand it off to a prone player of either team. The usefulness of this is fringe but in some desperate situation you can hope for some favorable bounces here and there. Playing with a spiked ball against some gang-fouling skeletons makes a lot of sense though...
You will of course lose your turn if either the opposing player grabs the ball or it lands on the ground. Should it bounce back to any of your players that proceeds to catch it, there is no turnover. |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 12:06 |
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Garion wrote: | Yes... it is a TD, he has the ball and stands in the end zone |
But doesn't this only apply in the opponent's turn if you read the rules as they are written? |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Nov 11, 2014 - 12:12 |
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no, its a td this thread is silly, people need to stop trying to use logic and fluff to support their argument. The rules are clear here, Blood Lust is a specific exception written in to the rules any other time a player stands in the end zone it is a TD immediately. |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 12:37 |
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But the rule you are using to call the TD in your own turn is from the "Scoring In The Opponent's Turn"-section. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Nov 11, 2014 - 12:40 |
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no its not. rules for scoring td in your turn -
A team scores a TD during their turn when one of their players is standing in the opposing team's end zone while holding the ball at the end of any of your players' Actions. |
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Overhamsteren
Joined: May 27, 2006
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Nov 11, 2014 - 13:12 |
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Ah cheers read that as if the player with the ball had to end his action there |
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