w8lifter
Joined: Jan 21, 2015
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Feb 11, 2016 - 00:39 |
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Up to you, but at 110 TV, he's too expensive for a Norse team. And that's another player that will eat MVPs that other players could get double skills on as well as 110 TV that can get sent off the pitch by the Ref.
Norse to have manage TV to be competitive, it's not really an option. If 31 SPP, a Norse lino doesn't have Guard or +AG/+ST, he has to be fired. |
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DrPoods
Joined: Nov 14, 2013
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Feb 11, 2016 - 00:47 |
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Pro. He fits the mould. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Feb 11, 2016 - 01:06 |
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w8lifter wrote: | these are opinions about norse that everyone has heard a 1000 times before |
this is not relevant, i'm keeping him, so the question is which skill. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Feb 11, 2016 - 01:15 |
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w8lifter wrote: | Norse to have manage TV to be competitive, it's not really an option. If 31 SPP, a Norse lino doesn't have Guard or +AG/+ST, he has to be fired. |
This is long term League. How much winning experience do you have using Norse in a big League again?
It's all about planning pushes, developing a core (hopefully he won't be part of), and cutting weight when necessary.
Playing Norse long term in a high TV League is a totally different game than Ranked or Box. |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Feb 11, 2016 - 01:37 |
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w8lifter
Joined: Jan 21, 2015
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Feb 11, 2016 - 02:13 |
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harvestmouse wrote: |
This is long term League. How much winning experience do you have using Norse in a big League again?
It's all about planning pushes, developing a core (hopefully he won't be part of), and cutting weight when necessary.
Playing Norse long term in a high TV League is a totally different game than Ranked or Box. |
More experience that you have in being polite.
Nowhere does it say what format this is but still long term League has the same challenges as Ranked as TV still needs to be managed as your hitters (Zerks/Ulfs) should be gaining the majority of SPP from Cas and Runners should be scoring, so having a 110 TV lino that can be sent off on a single foul is 40 TV too much. Yes, you will be facing fewer skill monsters but that 40 TV could be the difference between your opponent having a wizard or not.
But obvious someone has pissed in your wheaties, if it was me, I would apologize but at this point, I'd be lying. |
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w8lifter
Joined: Jan 21, 2015
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Feb 11, 2016 - 02:14 |
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Duplicate post |
Last edited by w8lifter on %b %14, %2016 - %16:%Feb; edited 2 times in total |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Feb 11, 2016 - 02:50 |
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w8lifter wrote: | Nowhere does it say what format this is... |
I clearly stated that retirement is not an option. On three different occasions. That's all you need to know. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:45 |
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w8lifter wrote: |
Nowhere does it say what format this is |
This is actually true and a fair point. I realised this after I posted (slaps BK2).
w8lifter wrote: | but still long term League has the same challenges as Ranked |
No, this isn't the case. You cannot play a League team how you are playing your Ranked Norse and go on a title run.
w8lifter wrote: | having a 110 TV lino that can be sent off on a single foul is 40 TV too much. |
Of course this is a problem. The player is unfortunate. However you need to move away from him being a DP and him being a full half player. If he gets sent off after the half is settled, then he gets sent off. Hopefully you then have a bench that he doesn't matter for the second.
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Balle2000 wrote: | w8lifter wrote: | Nowhere does it say what format this is... |
I clearly stated that retirement is not an option. On three different occasions. That's all you need to know. |
Which is the main point I think you needed to be quiet. |
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Dach
Joined: Dec 25, 2015
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:48 |
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I'm with Jeffro, wrestle to bring more fouling target!
Not optimal on someone who already have block but oh well... |
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the_Sage
Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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Feb 11, 2016 - 09:28 |
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3 normals on a norse lino would be bad even if one of them wasn't dirty player imo. If retirement isn't an option for players, then skilling dirty player becomes a much worse idea, really. Still if you insist on keeping him, I'd go for tackle for this guy. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Feb 11, 2016 - 09:52 |
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Pro. At some point you may think that fouling as an option, but not critical. If in such case this player and the other foulers are both marked, but you absolutely dont want to spend a team reroll on dodge, then you use pro on failed dodge. Or on the 1d block if you decides against fouling. Both actions should be at the end of your turn to profit. |
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w8lifter
Joined: Jan 21, 2015
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Feb 14, 2016 - 16:42 |
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Balle2000 wrote: | w8lifter wrote: | these are opinions about norse that everyone has heard a 1000 times before |
this is not relevant, i'm keeping him, so the question is which skill. |
Don't misquote me, that's not what I wrote... |
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w8lifter
Joined: Jan 21, 2015
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Feb 14, 2016 - 16:54 |
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[quote="harvestmouse"]w8lifter wrote: |
No, this isn't the case. You cannot play a League team how you are playing your Ranked Norse and go on a title run.
Which is the main point I think you needed to be quiet. |
Again politeness escapes you.
Am I missing something in the long term League rules? I see a team that has played more games than the typical Ranked team does so exactly HOW is playing a League team with the following stat line for games different than Ranked?
Games Played: 160 (79/32/49)
That's 160 games played.
Anything past about 20 games means that you must maximize each position's value to the team and having a 3 skill DP means that the player has either 1 skill that doesn't help them with their main job as a positional player or two skills that don't help them as a fouler.
I've explained the reasoning behind my suggestions and yet all you can do is respond to my posts with rudeness. How about stepping up and providing some logic as to why a long term league team with 160 games played is managed differently than a team in ranked? |
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mariogodzilla
Joined: Feb 13, 2016
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Feb 14, 2016 - 17:28 |
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[quote="w8lifter"]harvestmouse wrote: | w8lifter wrote: |
No, this isn't the case. You cannot play a League team how you are playing your Ranked Norse and go on a title run.
Which is the main point I think you needed to be quiet. |
Again politeness escapes you.
Am I missing something in the long term League rules? I see a team that has played more games than the typical Ranked team does so exactly HOW is playing a League team with the following stat line for games different than Ranked?
Games Played: 160 (79/32/49)
That's 160 games played.
Anything past about 20 games means that you must maximize each position's value to the team and having a 3 skill DP means that the player has either 1 skill that doesn't help them with their main job as a positional player or two skills that don't help them as a fouler.
I've explained the reasoning behind my suggestions and yet all you can do is respond to my posts with rudeness. How about stepping up and providing some logic as to why a long term league team with 160 games played is managed differently than a team in ranked? |
Well he has said since the beginning retiring isn't an option, so saying he should retire it was pointless. |
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