McLovin
Joined: Aug 28, 2016
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Jul 05, 2019 - 20:23 |
 
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It doesn't make any sense. Can we make a site rule that makes the throw roll happen BEFORE the intercept attempt? That would not only make sense.
The throw roll should happen BEFORE the intercept roll. How do you intercept a failed pass? It doesn't make sense and it has mad the difference in my past 3 games. It's dumb and annoying. Sure, I'm biased caused it led to 3 losses, but it STILL doesn't make sense in any way! I was against this rule BEFORE my losing streak, but I have felt like it was a stupid rule since it's inception |
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Rbthma
Joined: Jan 14, 2009
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Jul 05, 2019 - 21:10 |
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Well, FUMBBL makes sure that the client follows all official BB rules (within reason) and intercept before the pass is in the rules. You will probably have to forward your concern to those in power to change the ruleset 
AFAIK it's that way so that intercepts actually happen as they are far too rare otherwise. That being said, I will almost always gfi to make sure I'm not passing over someone as usually the intercept is a critical error and will probably decide the game. |
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MenonaLoco
Joined: Jan 05, 2016
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Jul 05, 2019 - 21:17 |
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heheheheee a common conclusion by tabletop coaches. But actually it makes the game pace faster and it lets you intercept more. If you roll the pass first and then the int, the int would be a very rare sight.
If you get intercepted in 3 consecutive games, maybe you should stop throwing over players? Or, if you like that game option to throw over lines, take the save throw skill. |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jul 05, 2019 - 21:29 |
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The good news is that it's not a new question.
There is a note in the CRP page 22:
"Designer's Note: Many coaches argue over the realism of rolling to intercept before rolling to pass. Like many rules in Blood Bowl it is an abstraction to make the game work better. Think instead of the interception/passing rolls as a complete series of rolls to determine the outcome of a pass rather than sequential steps." |
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Joost
Joined: Mar 17, 2014
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Jul 05, 2019 - 22:50 |
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| razmus wrote: | The good news is that it's not a new question.
There is a note in the CRP page 22:
"Designer's Note: Many coaches argue over the realism of rolling to intercept before rolling to pass. Like many rules in Blood Bowl it is an abstraction to make the game work better. Think instead of the interception/passing rolls as a complete series of rolls to determine the outcome of a pass rather than sequential steps." |
Indeed. View it as a story telling mechanism. If the first roll is a 1 the story is a thrown ball that got heroically intercepted. any other roll on the first dice then opens the door to other storylines, such as the fumble, the missed throw or the accurate pass. |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Jul 06, 2019 - 02:11 |
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interception was changed to occur before accuracy roll back ~2002 to increase frequency/risk of INT in the game. |
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ClayInfinity
Joined: Aug 15, 2003
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Jul 06, 2019 - 10:31 |
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I think INT's should be 3spp as well... so rare and would encourage the use of pass block and other INT handy skills too. And make Safe Throw more important... |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 06, 2019 - 14:17 |
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| Joost wrote: |
Indeed. View it as a story telling mechanism. If the first roll is a 1 the story is a thrown ball that got heroically intercepted. any other roll on the first dice then opens the door to other storylines, such as the fumble, the missed throw or the accurate pass. |
Actually, a roll of 1 while trying to intercept is always a failure, not a success.
That said, I agree with the OP that checking for the interception BEFORE seeing the outcome of the pass is against logic.
If you fumble, you can't be intercepted (unless the intercepting player is marking the thrower).
Another illogical thing is the fumble chance's increase as the throwing range increases.
Trying to pass far should make the pass scatter more in case of failure, rather than fumble more. |
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Jim_Fear
Joined: May 02, 2014
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Jul 06, 2019 - 17:45 |
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Fumbbl Adage #44:
When on the forums MattDakka agrees, both he and the original poster should leave. |
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MenonaLoco
Joined: Jan 05, 2016
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Jul 06, 2019 - 19:27 |
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"Designer's Note: Many coaches argue over the realism of rolling to intercept before rolling to pass. Like many rules in Blood Bowl it is an abstraction to make the game work better. Think instead of the interception/passing rolls as a complete series of rolls to determine the outcome of a pass rather than sequential steps."
Yeah. With the designer's note this thread was close-able, right? |
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