Drrek
Joined: Jul 23, 2012
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May 11, 2025 - 04:37 |
 
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If you warn someone about timing them out, and they do it anyway, then its on them. Sometimes the person getting timed out is in the wrong, but that doesn't mean an automatic timer is what we should have.
I will say, I'd explicitly warn them with not just "time check" but "I will time you out if you go over again." As a niche nerd community, we have people who will not be socially adept and will not necessarily understand implicit warnings.
In the case listed there, the player who was timed out was in the wrong, and salty about it. The people who time out automatically without warning aren't breaking rules, but I would still say they are the wrong. This site isn't a ranked ladder of faceless people to beat to climb the rankings; it's a community of blood bowl nerds. It is important that we respect each other's lives. Both for the slow players to respect their opponents when they ask them to not go over time, and for the players who time out to respect that their opponents have lives and to give the grace to at least warn before timing out (and certainly not time out when someone has to brb or something). |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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May 11, 2025 - 04:39 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | We can't know for sure that automatic time-out in the Box would drive many people off.
It could drive off people not liking it but draw coaches who don't like to waste time, on the other hand. |
Maybe Matt is right.
Maybe the people that we'd miss most have already gone.
We can just abandon the [C]ompetitive division to the competitive coaches.
It is called the "Competitive Division" after all. |
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CoachBuck
Joined: Feb 26, 2020
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May 11, 2025 - 04:40 |
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Also responding to the many posts about how often this has been discussed. I too have seen these posts on a semi-regular basis. It’s one of the few constants on the Fumbbl forum I’ve come to expect: Fumbbl Haikus and Complaints about the Time Out Procedure. If this has been heavily debated since 2006 there clearly is at least cause to consider why it is so often brought up as an issue - for nearly 20 years this has been complained about. Whatever solutions have been attempted, they have still led to regular forum posts like this one.
I really resonate with Murker's take on it. I also really appreciate Drrek's response.
I’ve found a lot of value in the discussion just to come full circle with the idea that the timing system really doesn’t matter because at its core Fumbbl caters best to the more casual style of play which I believe is actually the way the game is meant to be played. The culture of Fumbbl is more about the spirit of the game. If you’re playing to win though, there can be conflicts, like the time-out rule. Win-at-all costs play is likely better suited for BB3 at the moment. So, my quest for stars on my profile and CR doesn’t feel all that important anymore. It’s the places where the time-out button doesn’t really matter where I have the most fun on Fumbbl: leagues. I just assumed in the competitive events the time-out procedure would’ve had a more established role. Nope, still just as contentious.
The open ended nature of time outs will cause continued debates and frustration I’m sure, but I’m content simply existing in the non-time out land. At least until I don’t have to be the guy pressing the button haha.
Thanks everyone for all your input! |
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