Pirog
Joined: Jul 13, 2006
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Dec 19, 2007 - 13:08 |
 
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Sure, I just wanted to give a somewhat more constructive viewpoint after seeing the draft.
You might want to break this out into your own thread by the way. I know I always get irritated when someone proposes a new team in my proposal threads. |
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SillySod
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
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Dec 19, 2007 - 15:18 |
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The teams free stuff is beyond pathetic. A goblin cheater team will feel cheated because their weapons will be pointless, why bother starting the chainsaw if you can simply block the guy for the same effect instead?
The idea has potential but needs alot of development. I'm not crazy about their need to freeboot a hard core of players every game, possibly adding overpriced Zombis to the team (in limited numbers) as permanent players might work. |
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Aenir
Joined: Jun 07, 2007
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Dec 19, 2007 - 15:25 |
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ok, so nearly all in favor of no freebooted zombis
so we @ 0-2 Aboms
0-2 Bat Swarms
0-2 Necromancers
0-12 Zombis
0-4 Wererats
Sounds about right |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 19, 2007 - 16:06 |
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4 Wererats with RSC (along with the 2 MB Abominations)?
That sounds really excessive bashing-wise.
(I agree in that I'm against freebooted zombis, though.) |
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Aenir
Joined: Jun 07, 2007
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Dec 19, 2007 - 16:08 |
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I would say that its somewhat needed, being superfragile and all  |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 19, 2007 - 16:10 |
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*blinks*
Fragile?
AV6 + Regen isn't shabby. |
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Aenir
Joined: Jun 07, 2007
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Dec 19, 2007 - 16:37 |
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you seem to have something in your eye there 
let my RSC get that out for you
*moves closer*
Regen plays a part, but not Everything has regen
poor poor necros... and no love for the Giant Rats |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Dec 20, 2007 - 06:09 |
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| Aenir wrote: | ok, so nearly all in favor of no freebooted zombis
so we @ 0-2 Aboms
0-2 Bat Swarms
0-2 Necromancers
0-12 Zombis
0-4 Wererats
Sounds about right |
I'd go 0-2 on the W-rats.
The bigger question is: What are the final stats/skill access for the Zombis?
My suggestion is simply:
0-12 30K 3 2 2 7 Regenerate S |
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MoonFever
Joined: Oct 06, 2003
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Dec 20, 2007 - 06:22 |
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I'm down with that, or
2 2 2 6 Regen and Stand Firm
I think Strength skills sounds about right. Yeah, they'll get guard, but with the 2 MA/stand firm choice, they will only stand up half the time if knocked down, and 2 MA means they're getting nowheres fast. Means you have to be clever with placement, and that the positionals have to be relied on to score, but you won't be able to go too fast for fear of leaving your zombis in the dust.
If you go 0-4 on wererats, I'd get rid of claws/RSC, and give them frenzy instead, with only access to A skills. that way, they may be able to get additional blocks, but no access to armor helpers/injury helpers. Though I'd have to say I like the idea of 0-2 choice with either claws or RSC instead. |
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MoonFever
Joined: Oct 06, 2003
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Dec 20, 2007 - 06:27 |
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plus, if you go 0-4 on wererats, a player would only have to ever field one line-zombi. at least by keeping it 0-2, they have to put 3 on pitch, if they have all positionals.
Anyone thought about giving bat swarms pogo stick? it'll give them leap and potential extra movement, but no hands means no scoring, and it will also give them the opportunity to be thrown out of the game...Leap could be seen as them flying high...well...high enough to get over the opposing player... |
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Craftnburn
Joined: Jul 29, 2005
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Dec 20, 2007 - 06:44 |
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| MoonFever wrote: | | Anyone thought about giving bat swarms pogo stick? it'll give them leap and potential extra movement, but no hands means no scoring, and it will also give them the opportunity to be thrown out of the game...Leap could be seen as them flying high...well...high enough to get over the opposing player... |
Swarms are AG4+ Stunty.. that's a 2+ dodge anywhere.. When would you leap? |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 20, 2007 - 08:56 |
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| MoonFever wrote: | | Anyone thought about giving bat swarms pogo stick? it'll give them leap and potential extra movement, but no hands means no scoring, and it will also give them the opportunity to be thrown out of the game...Leap could be seen as them flying high...well...high enough to get over the opposing player... |
I had exactly that thought, and I agree that it's better if animals can be sent off, but Bats really don't seem very bouncy to me... |
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johan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 20, 2007 - 08:56 |
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| Craftnburn wrote: | | Swarms are AG4+ Stunty.. that's a 2+ dodge anywhere.. When would you leap? |
Diving Tackle. Especially with Tackle. |
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Aenir
Joined: Jun 07, 2007
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Dec 20, 2007 - 20:39 |
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wouldnt that be jump up instead of leap? |
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Khaan
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 20, 2007 - 20:45 |
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pogo = unlimited leaps
A bat swarm with a pogo stick just feels very strange. I really do not like it. |
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