Wizfall
Joined: Dec 09, 2011
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Aug 25, 2014 - 13:27 |
 
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| awambawamb wrote: | | I wonder, does frenzy works with stab? |
I think in the rule it does.
Don't know if the client allows it though.
Assassin are still rubbish anyway. |
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bghandras
Joined: Feb 06, 2011
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Aug 25, 2014 - 13:35 |
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I think it cant work with it, as I see it as a replacement effect. Whenever you roll a push (no push rolled on a stab attempt), then you can block again. |
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krytie
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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Aug 25, 2014 - 13:36 |
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I guess your argument is that your hitting him and fail to break av so he's still standing so hit him again...
When you stab instead of blocking, there are no block dice rolled so i don't see how frenzy applies -- you couldn't roll a pushback or follow-up. Just remaining next to someone on a frenzy block is not enough to allow a second block -- e.g. bothdown result when both have block skill. |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Aug 25, 2014 - 13:59 |
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I'm pretty sure they don't work together. But there is at least one player with Frenzy and Stab: Hugo!. So you could probably check. |
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BiBi
Joined: Jun 09, 2011
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Aug 25, 2014 - 14:16 |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Aug 25, 2014 - 14:46 |
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Stab takes place of a block but is not a block. Frenzy only works with a block and only takes effect from a push result on the block dice.
Thanks for that insightful info BiBi. I never considered hitting with Frenzy stabber first and then stabbing in place of a next shot. It makes the assassin a bit better. |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Aug 25, 2014 - 14:55 |
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A little bit better than crap is still crap.  |
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keggiemckill
Joined: Oct 07, 2004
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Aug 25, 2014 - 15:03 |
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A multiblocking assassin is pretty awesome. |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Aug 25, 2014 - 15:09 |
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| Badoek wrote: | Hilarious last few posts 
FUMBBL diplomacy at its finest. |
It's nothing to do with diplomacy. More urgency. I wasn't being terse. He wouldn't have posted it, if he thought there was a problem.
Just site survival, that's all. |
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Rabe
Joined: Jun 06, 2009
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Aug 25, 2014 - 15:25 |
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| Rabe wrote: | | Also note that if you need to blitz something (a ball carrier for example) with a Frenzy guy who would get into massive trouble on the second block, you can run a little extra and block on the second GFI to stop Frenzy from working afterwards. |
Forget about that. Odds with GFIs are a lot worse than most things that could happen on a bad follow-up block. There are probably still situation where my idea works, but they are certainly rare and very specific. |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Aug 25, 2014 - 16:27 |
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| keggiemckill wrote: | | A multiblocking assassin is pretty awesome. |
Depends on your definition of awesome. If by awesome you mean "great fluff great fun" then yeah. If by awesome you mean "your team is better off with him than without him" then nope. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Aug 26, 2014 - 03:22 |
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A blodge, multiblock assassin could be great fun against a side with low av lacking tackle.. Not exactly an every match occurrence for most teams, but a nice option for pickers. |
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xnoelx
Joined: Jun 05, 2012
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Aug 26, 2014 - 03:25 |
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| garyt1 wrote: | | A blodge, multiblock assassin could be great fun against a side with low av lacking tackle.. Not exactly an every match occurrence for most teams, but a nice option for pickers. |
Like this? |
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Catalyst32
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Aug 26, 2014 - 04:33 |
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| Rabe wrote: | Stabbing on a blitz action does indeed need a point of MA for the blitz. I think Zara slipped on a GFI for the rescuing stab once in one of my games... Plus: If it wasn't that way, a Stab blitz would have further reach than a blitz action used to block - that would be pretty wrong (unless the assassin throws his knife, but then it should be gone...).
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| notbobby125 wrote: | | Also notable, a second Frenzy block also counts as movement, so avoid making GFI blitzes with Frenzy players unless doing so is essential to victory. |
Also note that if you need to blitz something (a ball carrier for example) with a Frenzy guy who would get into massive trouble on the second block, you can run a little extra and block on the second GFI to stop Frenzy from working afterwards. |
Hmmm... An Assassin THROWING the knife!?!?! That is a GREAT idea and would make it worthwhile to use an Assassin.
Have it count as the PASS for the turn... give the Assassin access to Passing Skills maybe... and of course once the knife is thrown it is gone for the rest of the drive AND maybe it risks the Assassin from being ejected (because supposedly he sneaks the knife onto the field and throwing it would draw the attention of the Ref).
You have stumbled onto something. |
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garyt1
Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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Aug 26, 2014 - 04:43 |
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Yes indeed. I couldn't remember if he had one but was the exact person who I thought would. |
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