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Better option for Witch Elf
Mighty Blow - Slap for quick 2nd skill
73%
 73%  [ 33 ]
Juggernaut - Safety in Blitz for lack of Block/Wrestle
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
Block (Normal) - Safe and help to 2nd skill
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Wrestle (Normal) - Safe and annoying rivals
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other - Please detail in post :D
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 45


Stonetroll



Joined: Jun 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 08, 2015 - 14:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Frenzy players can't grab ever.
Gartch



Joined: Sep 07, 2012

Post   Posted: Feb 08, 2015 - 14:25 Reply with quote Back to top

PaddyMick wrote:
How about Grab? for surfing side steppers. Could be second double after Juggs, or take it now.

No player can have both frenzy and grab, and witch elves start with frenzy Wink
El_Jairo



Joined: Jun 08, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 15:58 Reply with quote Back to top

I picked MB as it stacks well with Frenzy. Sure you would like to crowd-surf as much as possible but your opponent might make it impossible.
Juggernaut used to be my first pick for a double but as it is your first skill you have a fair chance of getting PO too and really be able to knock off people without the crowd-surf.
In my book juggernaut only becomes a priority if the opponents have a lot of stand firm you want to blitz. MB Works on any block so it has more usage by default.
Another logic I don't follow is how does juggs negate wrestle if you don't convert a both-down to a push? I don't recall that juggs cancels wrestle by default, just stand firm on a blitz.

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Tripleskull



Joined: Oct 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 19:12 Reply with quote Back to top

Jugg cancels wrestle, fend and stand firm on a blitz.
the_Sage



Joined: Jan 13, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 19:33 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd take Mb if I don't have a Mb yet, jugger if I do. Block, sidestep, leap next for a jugger; block, tackle and cross your fingers for piling on next for a Mb.

Stonetroll wrote:
Frenzy players can't grab ever.


That's almost true. No player with frenzy may select the grab skill, and vice versa. However, Peikko was designed with both grab and frenzy.
bghandras



Joined: Feb 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 19:58 Reply with quote Back to top

Peikko is a surfing machine. Does he do that in his freetime? :p

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Shinomune



Joined: Apr 04, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 21:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the extra comments, specially the mention that Juggernaut cancels Wrestle without change Both Down to Push Very Happy

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Smeat



Joined: Nov 19, 2006

Post   Posted: Feb 09, 2015 - 22:08 Reply with quote Back to top

You are playing CRP rules, right?

Mighty Blow.

Block then Sidestep on normals, Piling On on next doubles.

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