MerryZ
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Jul 27, 2022 - 08:57 |
 
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I mean teams with more games played not bigger TV.
There is big difference in 100 game played 1300tv team and new 1300tv team |
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Kondor
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Jul 27, 2022 - 09:02 |
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| Garion26 wrote: |
Do people feel they would be at the advantage as the underdog taking a TV 1100 or so team into the tournament against TV 1400-1700 or so range big teams? If either approach seems reasonable not sure things are that off. The big three (Morg, Griff, Hakflem) are really good and the best of the stars- but I'm not sure I wouldn't take another 220K of team development over Griff.
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Well, how about this. Look at the large TV gaps and what you can get.
Morg - Worth it. Take him every time you can
Deeproot - +2 MB probably take him whenever you can
Bomma - Worth it Grab him if you have 50k to spare
Hackflem - worth it. Take him almost every chance you get
Wizard - Worth it. Grab it every chance you can
Bribes - If you have bribery and corruption take it as often as possible.
Grak and Crumbleberry - Take them if you cannot afford Morg or Deeproot
Ivar and the new Amazon star - Probably worth it for the special rule.
Akhorne - A good, cheap choice in many situations
Stars with Saws - Worth it if that is your style of play.
With all these options to truly even the odds in large TV gaps, why are we limiting TV at all? At least pick a much higher limit and let the inducements do the job of discouraging team growth. As planned, allow redraft at any time. |
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Kondor
Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Jul 27, 2022 - 09:04 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | I mean teams with more games played not bigger TV.
There is big difference in 100 game played 1300tv team and new 1300tv team |
I guess we just disagree here. There is a difference, but in my book it is minimal. Also, the new rules do little to address this if it is a real issue. |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Jul 27, 2022 - 09:24 |
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| Kondor wrote: |
I guess we just disagree here. There is a difference, but in my book it is minimal. Also, the new rules do little to address this if it is a real issue. |
My point on old teams was that not all want old teams in competitive enviroment.
And I think fumbbl has ways to adress this with new rules. Dont schedule new teams with seasoned teams. |
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Kondor
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Jul 27, 2022 - 10:50 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | | Kondor wrote: |
I guess we just disagree here. There is a difference, but in my book it is minimal. Also, the new rules do little to address this if it is a real issue. |
My point on old teams was that not all want old teams in competitive enviroment.
And I think fumbbl has ways to adress this with new rules. Dont schedule new teams with seasoned teams. |
Fumbbl could mitigate it by matching based on games played. However, Fumbbl tries to stay as close to rules as written as possible. Seasons are the only mechanism mentioned in the rules that comes close to doing what you suggest.
I doubt (and hope) that Fumbbl does not match based on the games played by a team.
Having said that, in the box, Fumbbl had the rookie team protection mechanism which protected a team until it had played 15 games. I hope it is not expanded further. |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:14 |
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Well, seems you dont or dont want to understand my point here.
So lets leave it on that. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:18 |
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A team with hundreds games played is not necessarily stronger than a team with fewer games because injuries can kill/cripple players (not to mention the Re-Draft) and 2 teams at TV 1000, just created, have not necessarily the same performance either.
So, the unbalance can happen even at TV 1000 with just created teams, no need to have teams with hundreds games played.
It's not a matter of old or young team. A young team could be better than an old team. With the Re-Draft the team growth will be harder than with the old rules. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:24 |
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MerryZ
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:26 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | A team with hundreds games played is not necessarily stronger than a team with fewer games because injuries can remove/cripple players (not to mention the Re-Draft) and 2 teams at TV 1000, just created, have not necessarily the same performance either.
So, the unbalance can happen even at TV 1000 with just created teams, no need to have teams with hundreds games played.
It's not a matter of old or young team. A young team could be better than an old team. With the Re-Draft the team growth will be harder than with the old rules. |
No offence but your last played game makes my point.
Also well played by your own rules there  |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:27 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | | MattDakka wrote: | A team with hundreds games played is not necessarily stronger than a team with fewer games because injuries can remove/cripple players (not to mention the Re-Draft) and 2 teams at TV 1000, just created, have not necessarily the same performance either.
So, the unbalance can happen even at TV 1000 with just created teams, no need to have teams with hundreds games played.
It's not a matter of old or young team. A young team could be better than an old team. With the Re-Draft the team growth will be harder than with the old rules. |
No offence but your last played game makes my point.
Also well played by your own rules there |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:28 |
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Please note that there is no Re-Draft enabled yet. I think we were talking about Competitive division with Season Re-Draft enabled.
Also, what's wrong with my last game? |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:29 |
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Nothing is forgotten, nothing is forgiven
(add a very stern and serious face here, to convey the moral highground)
lulz |
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MattDakka
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:30 |
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It's Alith Anar's quote, for your information, from a High Elf Army Book (I love the background). |
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kozak
Joined: Feb 25, 2017
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:31 |
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| MerryZ wrote: | I mean teams with more games played not bigger TV.
There is big difference in 100 game played 1300tv team and new 1300tv team |
This |
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JanMattys
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Jul 27, 2022 - 11:32 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | It's Alith Anar's quote, for your information, from a High Elf Army Book (I love the background). |
- I don't accept offers if (TV difference + opponent's Treasury) = 150 TV or higher.
Is this also a warhammer quote? |
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