Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 17:20 |
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Here's an idea: a lot of online games have temporary disconnection penalties to help against gamers wasting other gamers' time.
How about a 6h, 12h or 24h concession penalty, where you will be left out of the box scheduler when an odd number of coaches are drawn, and where you can only receive, not send, gamefinder challenges?
(Won't count for concessions when 2 or less players at kick-off)
EDIT: Tried to add third 'Pineapple' option, but failed. |
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mekutata
Joined: May 03, 2015
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Apr 08, 2020 - 18:00 |
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I'd block players temporary from box, in ranked it's anyway possible to pick opponents.
Let's hope influx of players doesn't mean influx of conceders.. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Apr 08, 2020 - 18:15 |
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Concession is not the same as disconnection. You get a second MVP and a win out of a concession, so you are already given something in exchange for your "wasted" time.
There are rules against disconnections already. Concessions are part of the game. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 18:30 |
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JanMattys wrote: | Concessions are part of the game. |
I was thinking it applied to unjustified concessions. Ie. the "this drive is going badly, so I concede" types. |
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Joost
Joined: Mar 17, 2014
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Apr 08, 2020 - 18:33 |
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Have you experienced many of them? I think I've encountered less than a handful in 3-4 years of Blackbox play |
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Thoriin
Joined: Apr 15, 2011
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Apr 08, 2020 - 18:41 |
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No, i think this a a bit light
Let's hang them, burn their house, kill their family.
Balle2000 wrote: | JanMattys wrote: | Concessions are part of the game. |
I was thinking it applied to unjustified concessions. Ie. the "this drive is going badly, so I concede" types. |
So that needs an human judgement from an admin , the penalty would happen after a delay, not great, and staff may have other things to do
(multi concessionners are looked upon and sanctionned already) |
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Arktoris
Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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Apr 08, 2020 - 19:12 |
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I'm fine with getting their cash, MVP, and a free win. That's enough for my time. |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Apr 08, 2020 - 19:38 |
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Frivolous concessions suck. But if you're getting maimed or run over, it's all on your own estimation, ya know? |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:13 |
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Thoriin wrote: | So that needs an human judgement from an admin |
Not quite.
You could make it go by the numbers. For example: you get the penalty for the 2nd concession within a 5 game span.
Crunching the numbers you'll soon find an automatic sweet spot.
The goal here is
1) Lessen admin ticket load by automatically dealing with "unfair" concessions
2) to disincentivize repeat "offenders" so coaches get to enjoy more full wins |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:16 |
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Joost wrote: | Have you experienced many of them? I think I've encountered less than a handful in 3-4 years of Blackbox play |
My experience is hardly a measure for anything, as I play most of my games in a league where people don't concede.
But table-flip concessions after the 1st casualty happens, what, everyday? and detracts from the user experience. |
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Dalfort
Joined: Jun 23, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:23 |
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Personally I think you are trying to fix something that isn't broken, procedures are already in place for multiple concessions and if you suffer an "unjustified" concession report it and hasten the process. It is worth re-mentioning that justified or not is extremely subjective. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:26 |
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Dalfort wrote: | Personally I think you are trying to fix something that isn't broken, procedures are already in place |
Yes, but these procedures require actual man hours to execute.
I'm more trying to lessen the admin workload, by adding an automization, than fixing something, I reckon. |
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Dalfort
Joined: Jun 23, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:32 |
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I am sure if there was an overload for the admin then they would have petitioned Christer and he in my opinion would have implemented something rather smartish.
If your experience is hardly a measure for anything, why raise the question? I can understand the prospective frustration for good coaches that are capable of farming more SPP from a wounded animal than the rules for concessions provide legitimately.
You are quite right that if this was a problem then something should be done about it, I just don't think it is. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:34 |
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Dalfort wrote: | If your experience is hardly a measure for anything, why raise the question? |
Because I care about my fellow fumbblers? I really appreciated your question here |
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Joost
Joined: Mar 17, 2014
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Apr 08, 2020 - 20:41 |
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Balle2000 wrote: | Joost wrote: | Have you experienced many of them? I think I've encountered less than a handful in 3-4 years of Blackbox play |
My experience is hardly a measure for anything, as I play most of my games in a league where people don't concede.
But table-flip concessions after the 1st casualty happens, what, everyday? and detracts from the user experience. |
sorry, I'm not familiar with the term 'table-flip concession'; does it mean something like flipping the board over in anger? |
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