Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 04, 2020 - 17:54 |
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Garion wrote: | Balle2000 wrote: | Remake Deathrace 2000 please.
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they did, they called it deathrace 3000, it sucked |
Remake Deathrace 3000 please. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 04, 2020 - 17:55 |
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very suprised to see The Postman get love, I thought that was truly awful. whereas most of the others are good in their own special way |
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SquirrelDude
Joined: Mar 22, 2015
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Aug 04, 2020 - 17:57 |
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It's taken me longer than I'd like to admit after making those shadowing and tents tables to recognize how counter intuitive the rules are. To show that with some examples.
Tents
A Troll breaks away from a Troll with tents 5/6 times because they're equal strength
A Goblin breaks away from a Troll with tents 2/6 times because it has 3 less strength.
A Troll breaks away from a Goblin with tents 5/6 times even though it has 3 more strength.
Shadowing
A Gutter Runner escapes from a Gutter Runner with shadowing 5/6 times because they're equal MA
A Norse Lineman escapes from a Gutter Runner with Shadowing 2/6 times because they have 3 less MA
A Gutter Runner escapes from a Norse Lineman with Shadowing 5/6 even though they have 3 more MA
The strength/movement advantage now only works one way. Being stronger/faster only helps you to hold someone or follow them. It no longer helps you to escape or break away. It's nonsense. |
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Balle2000
Joined: Sep 25, 2008
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:02 |
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You make a good case. From your analysis, they could have made this better. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:05 |
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May somebody do a % table with the removal odds of new Claws + MB please?
I'm curious to compare the odds with current Clawmb (a comparison table with two parallel % for new Claws + Mb and current Clawmb). |
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sebco
Joined: Feb 14, 2005
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:14 |
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We're still missing some informations to do it, no?
Page with Claw description has been revealed but not page with Mighty Blow nor page with Piling On (which could be modified from BB 2016 version). |
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Weresquid
Joined: Mar 25, 2016
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:19 |
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If they dont redesign piling on i hope they just remove it. Its a waste of wordcount atm. |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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SquirrelDude wrote: | It's taken me longer than I'd like to admit after making those shadowing and tents tables to recognize how counter intuitive the rules are. To show that with some examples.
Tents
A Troll breaks away from a Troll with tents 5/6 times because they're equal strength
A Goblin breaks away from a Troll with tents 2/6 times because it has 3 less strength.
A Troll breaks away from a Goblin with tents 5/6 times even though it has 3 more strength.
Shadowing
A Gutter Runner escapes from a Gutter Runner with shadowing 5/6 times because they're equal MA
A Norse Lineman escapes from a Gutter Runner with Shadowing 2/6 times because they have 3 less MA
A Gutter Runner escapes from a Norse Lineman with Shadowing 5/6 even though they have 3 more MA
The strength/movement advantage now only works one way. Being stronger/faster only helps you to hold someone or follow them. It no longer helps you to escape or break away. It's nonsense. |
Isn’t that just the effect of natural 6s though? Happens a lot in the game Where rolls that should be unlikely succeed on a 6.
I may be reading it wrong though. Can’t make it out myself so going off second hand information |
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Weresquid
Joined: Mar 25, 2016
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:26 |
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mister__joshua wrote: | Isn’t that just the effect of natural 6s though? Happens a lot in the game Where rolls that should be unlikely succeed on a 6.
I may be reading it wrong though. Can’t make it out myself so going off second hand information |
The problem is its a 6+ with even stats, so you get nothing out of a stat advantage when trying to escape.
Not a huge problem IMO, but not very intuitive. |
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Verminardo
Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Aug 04, 2020 - 18:29 |
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Thanks for this, missed the Time Wasting, that's potentially very game changing... |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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Weresquid wrote: | mister__joshua wrote: | Isn’t that just the effect of natural 6s though? Happens a lot in the game Where rolls that should be unlikely succeed on a 6.
I may be reading it wrong though. Can’t make it out myself so going off second hand information |
The problem is its a 6+ with even stats, so you get nothing out of a stat advantage when trying to escape.
Not a huge problem IMO, but not very intuitive. |
But you don’t get an advantage because it couldn’t be any easier? It’s already a 5/6 chance to escape with even stats? |
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mister__joshua
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
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Verminardo wrote: | Thanks for this, missed the Time Wasting, that's potentially very game changing... |
Garion says there’s nothing written about the punishment for time wasting, but one of the vids I watched said there was a chance for the crowd to throw a rock at the player. This would make sense as throw a rock is removed from the KO table, and it would make sense aesthetically. Not sure where that info was from though. Maybe a translation? |
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JuggerGonzo
Joined: Dec 23, 2014
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Aug 04, 2020 - 19:20 |
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Kzarik
Joined: Sep 25, 2016
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Aug 04, 2020 - 19:28 |
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Garion wrote: | very suprised to see The Postman get love, I thought that was truly awful. whereas most of the others are good in their own special way |
Of the films listed, Postman was my favorite by a wide margin. Enjoyed the premise, the music, the characters were mostly believable for motivations and had solid acting jobs all around. Story had some odd quirks and could see some saying it was resolved too neatly, but I love a good "Good triumphs Evil" story. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 04, 2020 - 19:30 |
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mister__joshua wrote: | Verminardo wrote: | Thanks for this, missed the Time Wasting, that's potentially very game changing... |
Garion says there’s nothing written about the punishment for time wasting, but one of the vids I watched said there was a chance for the crowd to throw a rock at the player. This would make sense as throw a rock is removed from the KO table, and it would make sense aesthetically. Not sure where that info was from though. Maybe a translation? |
I've looked hard, i believe this rock thing is just pure speculation. I suspect there will be some sort of punishement , but there is literally nothing to go off yet |
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