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How do you feel about the Fumbbl Tour?
Sweet! One to show off coaching skill.
43%
 43%  [ 38 ]
Meh, it's not a major.
8%
 8%  [ 7 ]
Yuck, more powergaming just on a smaller scale.
26%
 26%  [ 23 ]
I'm waiting for the Great Fumbbl Pie Bake-Off!
21%
 21%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 87


JB



Joined: Jul 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 15:48 Reply with quote Back to top

its unlikely to get 90k in the first game though - so two games without the count would naturally also result in more dead/injured permanent team members .... both teams are good but I'd prefer the count

and regarding PeteW Chaos: yes they are in good shape especially for a chaos team at this TR but - no tackle, only one CW and 12 players ... Pete might play well but his team is definitly not a favorite to me.

I didnt take a closer look at the other teams yet, but one thing I am sure about is that seeding will be important because of the diversity of races
Anthalas



Joined: Sep 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 16:02 Reply with quote Back to top

Assuming ff 9+ for both teams the winner will get (1D6+5)x10K for the first round (including the 20k for round 1) So getting 90K+ is 50/50. Is that defined as unlikely?
Flix



Joined: Oct 26, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 16:16 Reply with quote Back to top

specialy without the cap of 150Tr for each game, some teams get very very strong
JB



Joined: Jul 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 16:33 Reply with quote Back to top

Anthalas wrote:
Assuming ff 9+ for both teams the winner will get (1D6+5)x10K for the first round (including the 20k for round 1) So getting 90K+ is 50/50. Is that defined as unlikely?


yes since you calculation is a bit wrong:
combined FF 18 - average gate (3,5 per FF) = 63k

at TR 150 this is 1 D6 +2 (+1 for winning the game otherwise the whole discussion is useless in the first place) ... 6,5 k winning average

and note: next gate braket is at 59k or 60k ... so a bit below average FF rolling and you just lost 10k in your example

but even in the above example you would need a 6 and win the game to get 90k ... so yes unlikely imho, since I dont like relying on rolling a 6 Wink
Anthalas



Joined: Sep 14, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 16:56 Reply with quote Back to top

I included the 20k for winning first round of the tour
Flix



Joined: Oct 26, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 20:30 Reply with quote Back to top

Fumbbl Tour will end in a Star massaker
PeteW



Joined: Aug 05, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 21:00 Reply with quote Back to top

JB wrote:
its unlikely to get 90k in the first game though - so two games without the count would naturally also result in more dead/injured permanent team members .... both teams are good but I'd prefer the count

and regarding PeteW Chaos: yes they are in good shape especially for a chaos team at this TR but - no tackle, only one CW and 12 players ... Pete might play well but his team is definitly not a favorite to me.

I didnt take a closer look at the other teams yet, but one thing I am sure about is that seeding will be important because of the diversity of races


hehehehe. I entered my chaos for fun. JB is right - I won;t win. One of the pimped dwarf or undead teams will win it.

pigstar-69's team is good, and he has the skills to match.

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Arcon



Joined: Mar 01, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 21:09 Reply with quote Back to top

With all these nice prepared teams in it I get the feeling I should have tried to prepare a team myself instead of just applying with the one that happened to have TR150.
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vanGorn



Joined: Feb 24, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 22:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Hedge Fond Locusts will win. They have the highest total speed of all commited undead teams. %)

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JoseBagg



Joined: Sep 10, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 23:17 Reply with quote Back to top

I built my team specific for the Tour. I am not a good coach, so I don't expect to win the tourney, but I do expect to win a game or two.
SillySod



Joined: Oct 10, 2006

Post   Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 23:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, heres my take on the kind of team I expect to win a tour.

5 rounds from 6 rounds changes things a bit, it starts to favour teams that have early initial cash quite a bit more than it might. However my original conclusion still holds:
- almost all the high cash teams will get through the first round.
- the teams which will easily be strongest in 5 rounds time will be those that started with a solid teambuild and hopefully a good distribution of skills.
- any team with no money could easily find itself in trouble with a bad draw, if it faces money it'll be done for (probably)
- equally with a good draw the stronger teambuilds will gain enough cash quickly enough to field a few stars, all the time their squad will be growing stronger than the starstruck teams
- a tough teambuild with a bit of initial cash probably has the highest chance of doing very well but is sub-optimal for actually claiming the title, an all or nothing route is likely to win, I'd guess the tough team with no cash but a good draw.
- all this becomes irrelevant when Hogshine is playing PeteW.

Based on personal preference I chose the middle ground. I think the high cash teams will burn out by round 3 or 4 but will power through 1 and 2.

Hat Haters

PS I expect the winners to be in the elite/legend borderline by the end.

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Arctaeus



Joined: Dec 04, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 18, 2008 - 09:29 Reply with quote Back to top

Looks like I need to prepare my team a little better before a tour.
I mean.. a team rating 150 team after 14 games? Takes a good team buider to do that.
I played 6. Lol.

Next time i'll meta game a proper team. I will.
Arcon



Joined: Mar 01, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 28, 2008 - 22:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Woha!

I am still in!
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Melmoth



Joined: May 05, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 28, 2008 - 22:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Arcon wrote:
Woha!

I am still in!
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we could meet...Only if I win next match though
Arcon



Joined: Mar 01, 2004

Post   Posted: Jan 28, 2008 - 23:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Melmoth wrote:
Arcon wrote:
Woha!

I am still in!
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


we could meet...Only if I win next match though

Yeah, maybe.
Be sure I will have a wizard and Zara with her stakes with me..
Wink

But, will that be enough?? Question
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