freak_in_a_frock
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 18:18 |
 
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After suffering yet another game with my gnomes where their inability to throw a bomb cost me dearly i thought to myself 'why do i suffer a turnover if a fumble the bomb
Checking the rules for a turnover it is not listed, they only one that comes close is :-2. player on the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
Now if i fumble the bomb and remain standing surely it shouldn't be a turnover, the passing rules for turnovers can't count as they state the ball must be caught etc by a player on the moving team, which obviously i don't want to happen.
So my question is should a coach suffer a turnover if one of his players fumble a bomb, and he and any of his team mates are not hit by the blast?
and if so explain why. |
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JanMattys
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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May 22, 2004 - 18:56 |
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No, it shouldn't. |
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m0nty
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 18:59 |
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I think the boy has something there. |
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Baffers
Joined: Sep 26, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 19:10 |
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Well, if fumbling (and killing) a player using the throw team mate skill doesn't even cause a turnover anymore, a fumbled harmless bomb sure shouldn't either. Only fair, right? |
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happytimes
Joined: May 13, 2004
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May 22, 2004 - 19:16 |
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offline I too play online turnover if harm, I never used boms before online, and I guess I wont with this error |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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May 22, 2004 - 19:18 |
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yes it is a turn over!
look at the throw team mate for example... if you fail it it s not a turn over (assuming the living bullet hasn t the ball) but if you fumble it, it s a turn over!!
In general case... every fumble is a turn over. But i sympathise with you... throwing a bomb is hard, need to lit it and need to throw it. 2 occasions to make a turn over.... |
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Jarnageddon
Joined: Nov 04, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 19:18 |
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Good Point, now to form an angry mob and storm somewhere and complain to someone 'loudly'. |
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freak_in_a_frock
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 19:23 |
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Ash with the new rules a fumbled TTM is not a turnover anymore, unless the player had the ball |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 19:29 |
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A failed OFAB results in a proned player too.... still no turnover even if it is a RIP. |
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Lorion
Joined: Feb 04, 2004
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May 22, 2004 - 22:36 |
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Implementing the rule like this would surely make the gnomes stronger, but I'm not sure about its compliance with the LRB. Perhaps that should be checked first  . I do, hovever think that if anyone on the moving team falls - then it is a turnover. |
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Muldvarpen
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 22, 2004 - 23:52 |
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Then should Pilling on also cause a turnover? |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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May 23, 2004 - 00:01 |
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freak, where have you seen that? a fumble on landing is not a turn over but a fumble on the throw is still a fumble. According to LRB, throwing a teammate is just like throwing the ball except for the range. |
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AvatarDM
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 23, 2004 - 00:22 |
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| Quote: | . Any failed landing including fumbled throws or
landing in the crowd does not count as a turnover unless
the player that was thrown was holding the ball. |
LRB 3.0 page 23 |
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Ash
Joined: Feb 03, 2004
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May 23, 2004 - 01:52 |
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Britnoth
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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May 23, 2004 - 03:04 |
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The LRB says that throwing a bomb uses the same rules as throwing the ball - ie. it can be interecepted and fumbled and is affected by foul appearance and weather conditions. Throw team mate is a special skill that uses the pass action but not the pass rules (ignores FA, very sunny weather etc.)
A fumbled pass is a always turnover, so I assume that is where it is from. |
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