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Humans or imperial
Humans
88%
 88%  [ 47 ]
Imperial
11%
 11%  [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 53


Milman



Joined: Nov 15, 2017

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 10:00 Reply with quote Back to top

What do people think is the best team when comparing a human team vs an imperial team.
Rosters
Human: ogre, 2catchers, thrower, 4blitzers, 3linemen, 3rr’s

Imperial: ogre, 2bodyguards, 2throwers, 2blitzers, 4linemen, 2rr’s

So both teams have 4players to deal with bothdown. The humans have less strength but the imps have less av and rr.
The imps can save up for the other bodyguards and take leader on the thrower for the 3th rr.
The humans can go for the apo right away and now can take flings what could do stuff potentially…

What do you think what team is best?
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 10:47 Reply with quote Back to top

Humans.

Cheaper (players + RRs), more versatile (their starting skills are more interesting : block, dodge, sure hand....), FOUR blitzers to start with, and can throw a halfling on the wings of Victory.

Definitely Humans.
uzkulak



Joined: Mar 30, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 12:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Also catchers can be very good at lower tv and play into one of the real strengths of the team which is speed and the ability to move the ball quickly.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 13:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Humans are tier 1, Imperial Nobility tier 2. Also, Human Linemen have higher AV.
Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 13:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Humans can also grab a cheap fling to toss around in an emergency.
Milman



Joined: Nov 15, 2017

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 21:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks a lot all of you.

… nobody …nobody picked imperials
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 00:01 Reply with quote Back to top

In fact, it appears someone did.
Who's guilty? show yourself if you dare, spy from Boggenhaffen!!
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 10:37 Reply with quote Back to top

Azur wrote:
In fact, it appears someone did.
Who's guilty? show yourself if you dare, spy from Boggenhaffen!!

I think they did it to spite the last post!
Maybe if it had been four bodyguards and two Blitzers it might have some competition…
Wolbum



Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 13:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Humans by a country mile. While the Imperial humans may have an ever so slight advantage in terms of defense, that is assuming their linemen don't get slaughtered like animals, the humans have them beat in every other area.

Durability
Speed
Positionals
Bash capacity
Monouverability
One Turn Touchdown potential

It's not even a competition.
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 27, 2021 - 17:50 Reply with quote Back to top

If we ignore the Ogre as they are the same
Human: 1 Thrower; 2x catchers; 4x Blitzers; 4x linemen; 3 TRR = 900 TV
Imperial: 1 Thrower; 2x Blitzers; 4x Bodyguards; 4x linemen; 2 TRR = 965 TV

Imperial cost 65k more and have one less TRR.

Human Thrower has +1 PA and Sure Hands clear winner.

Noble Blitzers vs Human Catchers. Both are one skill away from Blodge. Nobility pay 40k for +ST +AV but one less move. Easier to get move; the only advantage for the Imperials.

Human Blitzer vs Bodyguard
Trade a point of movement for a skill. I would call tha a draw expect Bodyguards cost 5k more and have worse PA...

Linemen
Imperial get 5k discount for Fend but -AG and -AV. Every so often you need a Linemen to dodge or pick up the ball. Clear winner to Humans for me.


Str 3 "Catchers" are nice. Just like Brets there is bond to be some things they are better at then Humans but I think the comparison shows the Tier 1 to 2 difference.
Mingoose



Joined: Jul 28, 2016

Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2021 - 18:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Lyracian wrote:


Noble Blitzers vs Human Catchers. Both are one skill away from Blodge. Nobility pay 40k for +ST +AV but one less move. Easier to get move; the only advantage for the Imperials.


The most cost effective player in BB2020 will be a DP/SG human catcher. My human teams will have two on a 12 man roster. 1v1 a Noble Blitzer beats a human catcher, but a DP/SG catcher is 1000% more valuable to a team than any configuration of Noble Blitzer.
Calcium



Joined: Apr 08, 2007

Post   Posted: Jul 19, 2021 - 23:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Gotta stay with my beloved old school humans...Say no to Imperial scum!

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Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 20, 2021 - 01:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Humans get Flings now? WOWEEE wowWWOW!!!
That means they can WIN a few games against BASH 2-1 that were TIES 1-1 before.
Get beat up for a Half with a Stall and on Turn 8 Throw a Fling into the End Zone FTW!!!

I mean... sure most of the time you will still end up with the TIE.
But the possibility now EXISTS.
And talk about a GLORIUS way to end a Half.
With a winning TD!!!
Or a huge SPLAT!!!


BTW... Need some HELP.
Where are the NEW ROSTERS etc posted on here?
Where are the NEW RULES?
Anybody?

I haven't had time to read them as of yet.
I was too busy being Successful for a while.
And then I was too occupied with almost being DEAD for awhile.

Still taking my time trying to get back into LIFE to give successful a go again.
So until then I have some time for my passions.
And time to paint some miniatures... might as well paint up a curent LRB Roster.
policeshades



Joined: Oct 31, 2017

Post   Posted: Jul 20, 2021 - 12:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Catalyst32 wrote:

BTW... Need some HELP.
Where are the NEW ROSTERS etc posted on here?
Where are the NEW RULES?
Anybody?

I haven't had time to read them as of yet.
I was too busy being Successful for a while.
And then I was too occupied with almost being DEAD for awhile.


https://fumbbl.com/help:BB20RaceStrategy for the rosters. Rules, can't help you there apart from suggest you buy the BB2020 rulebook. Sann0638 made a summary sheet of changes though https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gcujkoe5NMxaZoyqIgrKL1b02T8ly9iFJJstWXRq-1g/edit?usp=sharing
Catalyst32



Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Post   Posted: Jul 20, 2021 - 16:38 Reply with quote Back to top

policeshades wrote:
Catalyst32 wrote:

BTW... Need some HELP.
Where are the NEW ROSTERS etc posted on here?
Where are the NEW RULES?
Anybody?

I haven't had time to read them as of yet.
I was too busy being Successful for a while.
And then I was too occupied with almost being DEAD for awhile.


https://fumbbl.com/help:BB20RaceStrategy for the rosters. Rules, can't help you there apart from suggest you buy the BB2020 rulebook. Sann0638 made a summary sheet of changes though https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gcujkoe5NMxaZoyqIgrKL1b02T8ly9iFJJstWXRq-1g/edit?usp=sharing



Thank you so much policeshades.

I'll check out that Rosters Link and come back to respond to the thread in an EDIT after I see the differences in the 2 Rosters.

EDIT HERE
Yes. Humans. As many have said. Better MA. Better AV. Better Thrower. Flings to Hurl for TTM TD's (which actually improves the Ogre too since he does the TTM'ing).

The Noble Blitzers are nice and better than a Catcher BUT you only get 2 and believe it or not Humans can be played much like Skaven using the 4 Catchers giving you more PLAYSTYLE OPTIONS. Plus it isn't a waste of a Catcher making him a Dirty Player/Sneaky Git... but it would probably be waste of a Noble Blitzer. So the advantage here is not HUGE and not enough to elevate Imperials over Humans.

And the miniatures for Imperials look DUMB. So... there is that.


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