BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:10 |
 
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| vanGorn wrote: | | schadenfreude |
weird german porn? |
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BadMrMojo
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:14 |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:15 |
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| BadMrMojo wrote: |
Naked psychologists. |
So... tell me about your mother.
*funky 1970's bassline kicks in*
Oh Dr. Freud!
Yes. I am hung like Jung! |
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JackDaniels
Joined: May 03, 2004
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:17 |
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24/15/17 <-stats of my chaos team. it is design to send the players of the opponent off the pitch and than score in turn 8. obviously it works sometimes. this team killed players before i joined the kaos horde and i like this kind of playing. but don´t tell me i play just for killing (and no the +5 points is not the only reason for me winning games..)! some people just don´t want to accept that hurting other teams makes a victory much easier.
so my idea of this team is: 1.kill 2.score. and kaos horde changed nothing about this fact. i joined the kaos horde because it is a good opportunity to be compared to other chaos teams.
all teams have advantages and disadvantages. my chaos is good at bashing, elves are good at passing, dodging and speed. so if elves use their advantages why shouldn´t i use mine? everybody decides which advantages he wants to have and then you will find out which playing style is better. to find this out you have to play. In my oppinion this is bloodbowl.
p.s.: i also played non bashing teams but at the moment i prefer chaos, orcs and dwarves. |
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vanGorn
Joined: Feb 24, 2004
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:18 |
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| BunnyPuncher wrote: | | vanGorn wrote: | | schadenfreude |
weird german porn? |
No. It's "the pleasure or satisfaction obtained from someone else's misfortune". |
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monboesen
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:24 |
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For the record I would like to state that I never worked for or even contemplated shutting down the MU groups. And Paul Hicks if you liked the DMU you should by all means continue it. I am sure even most dwarf coaches would like that.
All in all BadMrMojo stated what I meant, but in a more elgant way than I myself could put it. I do not like the concept of something being more important than the win, at least in R division. Internal scoring systems rewarding maiming can lead to this wheter intentional or not. As long all coaches involved in such groups state that loud and clear for all to see and go easy on newcomers I guess thats about as good as it will get.
Please do not read more into my initial statement than that.
While I don't get why it is satisfactory to destroy anothers team, thats not at all the issue here. And furthermore its a discussion that has both been overdone already and is completely futile.
And with that it might be time to close this thread off, nothing further is going to come from continuing it. Could someone with the power to do so please go ahead.  |
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BunnyPuncher
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:37 |
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No. It's "the pleasure or satisfaction obtained from someone else's misfortune". |
You mean the pleasure you get from defeating an opponent on the pitch?
How you achieve the win (withing the boundaries of the rules) is pointless no?
Other than the 30% of games that end in the tie, doesn't this apply to every game?
Unless you are saying that losing isnt a misfortune, but only losing a player is misfortune. Which is kinda strange. And if that is the case, I think we still have a division in which you can't lose players, so I would recommend it to you. |
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Laviak
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Dec 21, 2004 - 22:57 |
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I didn't read the whole thread ... but i have no problem with groups like the EMU existing ... but it would be nice to be able to easily tell if a team is a member of a particular group. Yes, i know you can check all of the group pages ... but it would be nice if more coaches included notes in the team bio indicating which groups they are in (and possibly how well they are doing in the group). |
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HollowOne
Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 00:08 |
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I kinda agree that the points weigh the games too heavily towards causing casualties instead of winning the games, and winning/drawing/losing should have more impact. I think winning the game should at least be equal to, or preferably, better than the slam dunk bonus. i.e. +15 to 25 points in the Kaos system.
Losses be commensurate, thus -15 to 25 points in Kaos.
Just my worthless opinion. |
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banana_fish900
Joined: Oct 13, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 02:43 |
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| BunnyPuncher wrote: | | vanGorn wrote: |
No. It's "the pleasure or satisfaction obtained from someone else's misfortune". |
You mean the pleasure you get from defeating an opponent on the pitch?
How you achieve the win (withing the boundaries of the rules) is pointless no?
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I think he's saying that an EMU coach can derrive pleasure from two sources: Winning the game and/or winning by virtue of hitting the bonus round on CAs. The misfortune of the other coach not being a loss in terms of TDs, but the loss of several players. But you already knew that. It's the whole reason you starting EMU was such a great idea--it changes the economics of the game.
Transparency--herein lies our salvation. |
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Glomp
Joined: Jan 04, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 03:19 |
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Thats what I wanted to get across but couldn't
Out smarted by a fish again... |
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skull
Joined: Dec 07, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 04:33 |
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I like killing.
I like to win... so i'll score when i can... and try to win, but i admit that... I love that splashing sound when you RIP someone.
So... i dont say i'm sorry... and i say "OH YEAH BABY" everytime i kill someone.
Thus, i'm in the Kaos horde =) |
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SixFootDwarf
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 04:45 |
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Wow. This got serious fast.
Monboesen and Alcing: you guys are as eloquent as anyone on FUMBBL. It's actually interesting to read what you guys write, even if someone didn't agree with it. I happen to agree totally. Keep it up.
I was kind of sad when I saw Paul Hicks had killed the DMU. Yeah, they wrecked my Dwarves in 4 games, but most people (and Dwarves especially!!) need someone to hate, and the DMU was the perfect enemy. Only Orcs would draw more wrath. So if you happen to read this Paul: bring it back, bro. It actually united (true) Dwarf coaches too.
My only opinion in this matter (for what it's worth) is that the MU team MUST advertise that it's out for blood. Monboeson said it perfectly about scaring off/discouraging new coaches. They don't look at it as a challenge or a learning experience....they look at it like people who know what they're doing picking on those who don't. Which is exactly what it is. So I think the MU's should be MADE to advertise that they are Killers and play against either other Killers or those who are prepared to dance with Death. (Even those of us that WERE prepared weren't prepared for long. I lost 5 Guarding Longbeards and a +ST/Stand Firm one in 4 games.)
Advertise, don't cherry-pick, and be a killer with a conscience. That way MU's can work...otherwise, they're bad. |
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paulhicks
Joined: Jul 19, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 05:54 |
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great..... i kill dmu and then people start telling me they actualy liked it 
i changed my mind anyway...... DMU will be back for another season. Bigger and better than ever. i will change the scoring system to make scoring of importance too though (amoungst other things) and i welcome all positive input.
Right..... now ive spent the last 2 months or so doing nothing but defend the M.U.'s and listen to constant winging..... it got so bad i thought about quitting fumbbl altogether. so now im going to rant about all the things i dont like... i think ive earned that now.
many of these will have been covered many times and many of you will disagree with me but tough. ive had to listen to everyone else's cr*p now its my turn 
1) coaches winging on and on about luck: its a game of chance, dont play it if you cant roll with it...
2) coaches who winge about others play styles: if you dont like bashy dont play us, if you dont like cheesy out scoring dont play elves.... its your choice to miss out on part of the fumbbl experience...
and most importantly 3) coaches who are so sad and insecure in their real lives that they have nothing better to do than sit in chat and forums waiting to belittle and push people around. i see this day in and day out from people and if anything is going to scare off the newbs its this....
there... all done. i feel better now for getting that off my chest. non of the above is designed to be argument or defense for the m.u.'s or to validate their existance. its just the way i feel.
im sorry if your imaginary pixles get killed cuz we're acting like jerks on the field but i think that fumbbl has a much bigger problem with people acting like real jerks to each other.
*paulhicks takes a heavy sedative*
im done now. i can go back to being mr nice(ish) guy
*paulhicks fouls vangorn to death then wanders off laughing...... now thats schadenfreude |
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DreadClaw
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 06:00 |
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word paul. just word. Next season of Dmu will introduce the Cherryzons or something from me.
I'm sick of people whining about it anyways.
Just kudos for that post. |
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