MorbidDeath
Joined: Mar 13, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 18:30 |
 
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Thats not really my intention mate - I just wanted opinions as to whether my turning down the game would classify me as a cherrypicker. |
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peterdj
Joined: Oct 24, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 18:54 |
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Based on this one time NO.
I dont know if its just me, but you´ve managed to meet only 1 basher team in all your 27 matches (Khemri, Orc, Chaos, Lizards, Vampire and Ogre). Without being too judgemental id say its cherrypicking... Of course this could be a coincidence (like a dwarf without a beard). |
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MorbidDeath
Joined: Mar 13, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 19:06 |
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@Peterdj: are you meaning me? or the other guy?
As I have met chaos, orcs, c.dwarves and many dwarves in my last 27 games.
Maybe you just consider looking up your data a little better before posting something so ridiculous. |
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Darkwolf
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 19:13 |
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morbid, do you need us to hold your hand when you cross the street? You are allowed to refuse games for whatever reason. Don't let others tell you what to do or think. |
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thesquig
Joined: Apr 11, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 19:15 |
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I would have rejected the game. I dont like playing uber bashy chaos because it can ruin your teams (or at least hamper them eh Dreadclaw  ).
I get rejected all the time with my undead, because I got lucky level ups and an impressive record with them. The average response is "ummmm... NO!" so I just wish them luck and challenge someone else a bit higher.
If he wants to call you a cherry picker, so what. I dont think there is much nead to create a poll on it, its a bit too much like you are trying to give him a bad name or something. But on the topic, I dont think refusing a game against the chaos team from doom is cherrypicking, far from it-its sensible!
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SnakeSanders
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 19:17 |
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Sure it was an unfair match but i wouldnt have gone posting the team link in the fumbbl fumbbl forums where everyone can see it. Sure you may be annoyed by the way he treated you but this could have caused a witch hunt which is in effect, against fumbbl rules. Id consider removing the team links. Not trying to be nasty, just fair to everyone
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Zy-Nox
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 22, 2004 - 19:19 |
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If your opponent was hounding you after you said no, you should have filed a support ticket, not publicly aired the situation, which has just fueled the fire. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 20:44 |
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I would have said no. too many guard and bashing power against your team. |
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MrMojo
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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Dec 22, 2004 - 21:01 |
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I made the mistake of playing that guy. He was a weird chaos coach tho, no fouling. My elves threw the usual amount of 1's and I played bad as usual so I lost, but he does seem a sort of cherrypicker, picking out "easy" games. |
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AvatarDM
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Dec 23, 2004 - 00:28 |
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Two things:
1. A coach with a Win Percentage of 79% wants to play a coach with a Win Percentage of 46% and accuses him to be a cherrypicker.
2. Please no witchhunts in the forums, an example without names (or links to a team) would have been enough. |
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sk8bcn
Joined: Apr 13, 2004
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Dec 23, 2004 - 01:16 |
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come on, I do not see any witch hunting here. Personnaly I do not even remember his name |
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Pelzmuff
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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Dec 23, 2004 - 02:30 |
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Cherrypicking, IMO, is one of the following actions:
a) Deliberately looking for unfair matchups (my chaos dwarves vs. your amazons, my vampires vs. your ogres , your no tackle team vs. my blodging squad, etc.)
b) Deliberately looking for weaker coaches (CR and win %)
c) A combination of the a) and b) (all blodge team vs. no tacklers with lower TR for handicaps...)
Sometimes you accept matchups in your favour, but I wouldn't say this is cherrypicking. And refusing a very unhealthy matchup? Definitely not. |
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MorbidDeath
Joined: Mar 13, 2004
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Dec 23, 2004 - 10:07 |
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This was not meant to be a witch-hunt. I left the details there just so the comparisons could be made clearly. From the information you can see who plays who in a general way - not just about the teams. For me to have included examples only - I would have been here all day long typing out list of information - which I did not have time for.
I understand what the forums are used for - but sometimes things have to be done in a direct way. Just because I am bold enough to state my exact position in this - does not mean I am inciting a witch hunt - it just means (well at least with my personl intentions) that I wanted to be clear on this matter. I am by no way saying this dude is anything evil - we all play our own strategy. |
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Sparticus
Joined: Jan 31, 2004
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Dec 23, 2004 - 10:25 |
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seems to me u only dodged the game ceasue u didnt wanna play bashy chaos.. and with all that guard chances are you would get beat up... zombies are 30k a pop.........there werewolfes they dunt live for long, theres almost as much hate for them out there as there is for wardancers.......
some teams are less viable as the tr's get higher, necros are a PERFECT example of that they are a outstanding team in tounry play but in the long life of teams they will fall down due to there wolfs and ghouls dieing....alot of team suffer from this amzons, norse, khemri all are strong starting teams, but as the days get longer, as soon as a chink in the armour happends it all turns red pretty quickly
i would have turned down the game as well im not a fan of teams stacked with RSC, Claw, the guard wouldnt have bothered me its just a chance to play your team diffrently, and you would have had to attack the ball alot harder in stead of mounting a defence all over the feild... |
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nazerdemus
Joined: Nov 02, 2004
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Dec 23, 2004 - 10:44 |
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| MorbidDeath wrote: | @Peterdj: are you meaning me? or the other guy?
As I have met chaos, orcs, c.dwarves and many dwarves in my last 27 games.
Maybe you just consider looking up your data a little better before posting something so ridiculous. |
I wonder where he could of got his facts from
Annoying Overpaid Gits Skaven 100 1/2/1 130000 1 - 0 100 0/0/0 0 61000
Lord's Wenches Amazon 118 1/2/1 60000 2 - 1 135 3/1/0 30000 40000
StargAte Skaven 126 1/0/1 60000 1 - 1 119 3/1/0 50000 64000
House Tana'ssar Dark Elf 126 2/1/2 50000 2 - 0 136 0/0/0 70000 70000
Board Games Undead 139 1/0/1 50000 2 - 0 141 1/1/0 50000 85000
Northern Birds of Prey Dark Elf 150 1/1/0 70000 2 - 1 145 0/0/1 20000 44000
Bloodstained Greeks Norse 150 4/2/0 50000 2 - 0 171 1/0/0 30000 75000
Kong´s Kittens High Elf 160 0/3/0 30000 3 - 0 153 0/0/0 50000 79000
Montys Dead Parrots Human 167 1/0/0 20000 1 - 2 171 2/1/0 50000 78000
Boost Wood Elf 158 0/0/0 60000 2 - 0 164 2/0/0 30000 75000
We Are Insensitive Necromantic 166 3/1/0 40000 3 - 0 162 1/1/0 60000 71000
Rakkaharts Rumblers Dark Elf 174 0/2/0 60000 2 - 0 179 1/0/0 60000 74000
lost souls of denmark Undead 181 1/0/1 80000 2 - 1 170 1/2/0 60000 93000
Rotten Slayers Necromantic 188 1/0/1 20000 2 - 2 176 3/0/0 30000 79000
Desert Raiders Human 192 2/1/1 30000 2 - 1 198 0/0/0 10000 70000
H.C. Andersen's Necromantic 198 0/1/1 30000 1 - 1 207 3/0/1 10000 61000
Charmed Black Chaos Dwarf 196 0/0/0 60000 2 - 1 194 2/0/0 50000 96000
On With Their Heads! Chaos Dwarf 197 3/1/0 20000 2 - 0 204 1/1/0 20000 75000
Khorne's Fanclub Chaos 203 2/0/0 60000 4 - 0 217 0/0/0 40000 87000
Lothlorien Leafs High Elf 213 1/2/0 30000 3 - 3 226 3/0/0 10000 68000
Juniper High Elf 220 1/3/0 40000 0 - 4 214 0/0/0 20000 72000
Human's revenge Human 225 2/1/1 60000 2 - 1 231 0/0/0 40000 72000
Forest Fools Wood Elf 228 2/1/0 0 0 - 4 251 0/0/0 20000 90000
Stormur Vakten Norse 230 0/1/0 0 0 - 3 243 1/2/2 50000 67000
Go Habs Go!! Human 209 0/1/1 30000 2 - 0 207 0/0/0 40000 75000
Dark Judges Undead 216 2/0/0 50000 0 - 5 218 2/2/0 90000 125000
Mai Pen Rai Skaven 222 1/4/0 60000 3 - 1 206 2/1/0 50000 62000
no orcs / no dwarfs , 1 chaos , 2 chaos dwarfs , lots and lots of elves /humans/rats ,
strangley you beat the 3 bash teams you played , the chaos exceptionally well
I aint judging either way but those are the facts , I personally wouldn't play dwarfs with my amazons so everyone cherry picks a bit I guess ,
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IT IS UP TO YOU WHAT TEAMS YOU PLAY , SOME PEOPLE LIKE SCRAPPY GAMES OTHERS LIKE PASSY GAMES , ITS YOUR LEISURE TIME YOUR USING AND IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY BASH TEAMS YOU DONT HAVE TO |
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