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2020-05-14 09:15:45
25 votes, rating 4.8
25 votes, rating 4.8
There Is Humans Behind the Screen
The site is crawling with new coaches, it is absolutely amazing.
Most of them are great, friendly and chatty. No online community can have enough of this chaps, go you!
Some are quiet, wont go much beyond the pleasantries of "gl hf" and the ocational "grats" and "gg" at the end. They are alright, no need to full on engage with everybody all the time, we also all have better days, worse days and many dont speak a common language with their opponent.
There is few who I find displeasing. Dead silence all game, no "hi" no "grats" no reply to a comment on a great play they did or anything, just dead silence.
This is not ok people, another human being is at the other end of the screen, acknowledgements and pleasantries are a bare minimum and should be used. Someone is spending about 60-80 min of their time with you, you wouldn't be dead silent in TT dont behave as such here.
And I got the displeasure of encountering a coach who i would call outright rude. Same as the previous cases... But late game drops a whine about dice and luck, so the coach can speak english, his keyboard isnt broken; just chose to not acknowledge anybody but himself and his own game, and when he found the need to speak it was about luck and dice and unfairness of the game.
Anyhow, I got my rant out, but the bottom line is, dont behave like there isnt another human at the other end. Try act like you would in TT, even if just a little.
Or at least try acknowledge your oponent with the bare pleasantries, takes no time, costs no money and it makes things better
Most of them are great, friendly and chatty. No online community can have enough of this chaps, go you!
Some are quiet, wont go much beyond the pleasantries of "gl hf" and the ocational "grats" and "gg" at the end. They are alright, no need to full on engage with everybody all the time, we also all have better days, worse days and many dont speak a common language with their opponent.
There is few who I find displeasing. Dead silence all game, no "hi" no "grats" no reply to a comment on a great play they did or anything, just dead silence.
This is not ok people, another human being is at the other end of the screen, acknowledgements and pleasantries are a bare minimum and should be used. Someone is spending about 60-80 min of their time with you, you wouldn't be dead silent in TT dont behave as such here.
And I got the displeasure of encountering a coach who i would call outright rude. Same as the previous cases... But late game drops a whine about dice and luck, so the coach can speak english, his keyboard isnt broken; just chose to not acknowledge anybody but himself and his own game, and when he found the need to speak it was about luck and dice and unfairness of the game.
Anyhow, I got my rant out, but the bottom line is, dont behave like there isnt another human at the other end. Try act like you would in TT, even if just a little.
Or at least try acknowledge your oponent with the bare pleasantries, takes no time, costs no money and it makes things better
Comments
Posted by MonkeyMan576 on 2020-05-14 09:22:05
Not everyone has the same personality, don't take it personally. Some people aren't talkers, and just want to play the game. I don't see a problem with that as long as they aren't mean.
Posted by Verminardo on 2020-05-14 09:30:25
Yeah should never take this kind of thing personally, which for me was one of the hardest lessons to learn on the internet. Most regulars approach Fumbbl more like they would a table top game, which is why I like the site. Some newbies will maybe not be aware of this, as in many online games with random pairings you aren't really expected to do pleasanteries. It's always good to remind yourself that you are interacting with a real human being though. Always makes me scratch my head, those commentaries in the press with the recent avent of online gaming and video chats and so on, if some elderly journalist rates these things "virtual" and compares them to "reality". As if what happens online wasn't real, when the actual reality is it's still humans interacting with each other.
Posted by koadah on 2020-05-14 10:26:20
@WizardX11: I've only been using the site for 15 years. How do you get to it? :)
Posted by koadah on 2020-05-14 11:24:41
Though I mostly agree with the sentiment, I still going to give this a 1.
Is silence followed a bit of a moan about the dice the worst abuse that you have faced on an online gaming platform?
If you have a list of sites that are more polite, friendly and less abusive than Fumbbl please post it. I'd love to give them a try.
Fumbbl is the ONLY gaming site where I chat with unknown people in public environments. I will normally hide or disable chat if those options are available.
If I play on my laptop I cannot get to the chatbox. Though I do send a PM explaining that.
I agree with the idea of getting people to at least acknowledge their opponents but this isn't TT. It is online. Sometimes people just want a game and no chat and there is no working AI.
Is silence followed a bit of a moan about the dice the worst abuse that you have faced on an online gaming platform?
If you have a list of sites that are more polite, friendly and less abusive than Fumbbl please post it. I'd love to give them a try.
Fumbbl is the ONLY gaming site where I chat with unknown people in public environments. I will normally hide or disable chat if those options are available.
If I play on my laptop I cannot get to the chatbox. Though I do send a PM explaining that.
I agree with the idea of getting people to at least acknowledge their opponents but this isn't TT. It is online. Sometimes people just want a game and no chat and there is no working AI.
Posted by Chivite on 2020-05-14 12:59:15
The thing is, this is not about receiving abuse, or me disliking Fumbbl's community (which I truly love btw)
It is about manners and feeling a decline in them in the site with the increase of coaches here.
I have received abuse in the past all game long too and I kinda enjoyed tbh
Not acknowledging someone all game can be disapointing, but its alright, as i said, not everyone speaks languages or even their screen ratio blocks the chat line thingy.
Still, as you said, a PM can be sent, it is not necessary, but can be done.
But to be silent all game, and then moan, it is just rude. That is all.
I wont loose any sleep over someone being rude, that is not what the post is about, I wanted people to maybe read this and think, "you know what, I will just stay quiet all game" or "I might just start at least saying Hi"
It is about manners and feeling a decline in them in the site with the increase of coaches here.
I have received abuse in the past all game long too and I kinda enjoyed tbh
Not acknowledging someone all game can be disapointing, but its alright, as i said, not everyone speaks languages or even their screen ratio blocks the chat line thingy.
Still, as you said, a PM can be sent, it is not necessary, but can be done.
But to be silent all game, and then moan, it is just rude. That is all.
I wont loose any sleep over someone being rude, that is not what the post is about, I wanted people to maybe read this and think, "you know what, I will just stay quiet all game" or "I might just start at least saying Hi"
Posted by garyt1 on 2020-05-14 16:52:56
I agree. Particularly about the people who are quiet except when they suddenly have a moan. There may be reasons why people are quiet. But if they want to be quiet then they shouldn't just suddenly write something to complain about the reason they haven't won.
Posted by MenonaLoco on 2020-05-14 17:20:37
Bah, as long as they play a dont purposefully delay the game, no problem.
You are talking about the human bring spending time - maybe i set the bar lower than you, but really for me its only a real issue when somebody starts wasting more and more of this time.
You are talking about the human bring spending time - maybe i set the bar lower than you, but really for me its only a real issue when somebody starts wasting more and more of this time.
Posted by Rbthma on 2020-05-14 18:26:57
Generally I'm pretty chatty but I'm also fine with silent coaches as there may be lots of other things going on - chat bar not working/language/etc. To be silent then start whining towards the end - very lame. Something about BB certainly brings out the salt...
Curiously, there are a few coaches I would prefer to be silent XD
Curiously, there are a few coaches I would prefer to be silent XD
Posted by Jeffro on 2020-05-14 21:46:27
I am TOTALLY on board with you, Chevite... I think basic communication is what reminds us that we're human. In defense of folks that might not chat as much, it may be because of language barriers - I noticed that in some of my interactions with folks during the Tilean Team Tourney (which I totally walked away with the Spoon during, btw... waiting for my prize!)
But patience with folks who might not be as comfortable chatting is good too. I made a point to see if I could look up my opponent's native language and used Google Translate to foster a bit more interaction rather than forcing them to use English. Just a thought.
But patience with folks who might not be as comfortable chatting is good too. I made a point to see if I could look up my opponent's native language and used Google Translate to foster a bit more interaction rather than forcing them to use English. Just a thought.
Posted by MrCushtie on 2020-05-15 01:53:20
Trolling a little bit, but my favourite part of the How to be a Right Bastard forum thread from long ago:
"How about this.
1. Dont type in chat
2. Wait for opponent to use apo
3. Turn 16 foul a player (preferably when you could vanity pass/ one turn/ still score)
4. When he dies or gets SI apologise to your opponent
The apology is super important"
Jeffro's point about language barriers is an important one - I've had games where I'm annoyed at the dead silence as my opponent slowly gangfouled my team to bits, but then these aren't always people with english as a first language.
But then I've also had people cause me to lose wins by moaning at me, *and* I've had times where I can't resist being sour because I've had what feels like a horrible run of dice. I did think about just hiding the chat section of the game window so I couldn't let it distract me, but the social aspect of this game is important to me, so that didn't work.
"How about this.
1. Dont type in chat
2. Wait for opponent to use apo
3. Turn 16 foul a player (preferably when you could vanity pass/ one turn/ still score)
4. When he dies or gets SI apologise to your opponent
The apology is super important"
Jeffro's point about language barriers is an important one - I've had games where I'm annoyed at the dead silence as my opponent slowly gangfouled my team to bits, but then these aren't always people with english as a first language.
But then I've also had people cause me to lose wins by moaning at me, *and* I've had times where I can't resist being sour because I've had what feels like a horrible run of dice. I did think about just hiding the chat section of the game window so I couldn't let it distract me, but the social aspect of this game is important to me, so that didn't work.
Posted by Uber on 2020-05-15 05:13:46
I think you pretty much nailed it Chevite. If your only social interaction on the site is to moan about bad luck, you might wanna rethink your approach. What's the point of saying stuff that's completely worthless? Nobody likes losing, but there's no need to make a joke of yourself in the process.
Posted by mekutata on 2020-05-15 11:39:30
@koadah, "there is no working AI." well if you want to play bb you have to play with a real person and not an AI. and i personally don't like feeling treated like someone would with an AI. some new coaches do. and screw up my spare time of the day.
Posted by Mattius on 2020-05-15 11:53:18
There are some weird and wonderful people who play this game. I imagine the people who actually need to read this blog are the ones who don't read the blogs :) but hey, if it helps get one person to not be an ass, then this blog is a success.
Posted by Kondor on 2020-05-17 09:37:15
I was chatting with Jokaero during a match and had an epiphany. My coaching skill goes down in proportion to the amount I chat. If I am enjoying the match I am less likely to play purely for the win and more likely to throw in a random needless foul or 1 die block or long bomb that could probably wait a turn.
When I run into someone who does not talk I concentrate on the match and only on winning. I make fewer stupid plays.
When I am winning and the player is complaining and being annoying, my chat is polite but inside I have decided be be a bit of a griefer and while winning be sure to foul T16. I know I should rise above it but I get annoyed.
When I run into someone who does not talk I concentrate on the match and only on winning. I make fewer stupid plays.
When I am winning and the player is complaining and being annoying, my chat is polite but inside I have decided be be a bit of a griefer and while winning be sure to foul T16. I know I should rise above it but I get annoyed.