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2009-03-25 02:49:54
28 votes, rating 1.5
28 votes, rating 1.5
Stalling
Well gotta say i like to be able to play BB on the web when I want to and there are a lot of great coach's here. but I'm sort of sad about all the stalling i can see why you would want to stall to win. I'm starting to get the feeling that stalling is a way of life for a lot of coach's... If you are one TD ahead and are about to get number 2 why bother stalling... even if you take the TD at once there ain't any real chance of loosing. I know I'm losing a lot of match but in many of 'em the seconded half of the second half is just waiting to get it over with no game left because my team is down and cant get up... Makes me wish there where an option to say the other player gets a TD and lets start playing once more or just that if all of the players of one side is down there gets an auto TD.
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Posted by pythrr on 2009-03-25 05:07:08
"Makes me wish there where an option to say the other player gets a TD and lets start playing once more"
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But there IS! It's called "putting pressure on them and forcing them to score"...
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But there IS! It's called "putting pressure on them and forcing them to score"...
Posted by Junior84 on 2009-03-25 05:54:30
stalling is an important tactic tool
live with it or plz quit playing bb
live with it or plz quit playing bb
Posted by Kondor on 2009-03-25 06:01:06
I once felt this way, but as time moves on, I've changed my mind.
First, if I am a bashing team playing someone agile by scoring to go up 2-1 before turn 8 I am inviting a draw. A good wood elf coach will be able to reliably score in two turns. With a spot of luck they can one turn you.
In the first half, delaying the score is also preferable if you will have or extend the lead. It makes it likely to go into halftime ahead which will put serious pressure on your opponent to score rather quickly or concede that the best they can do is a draw.
On the other hand, if I am the agile coach, I may want to delay scoring just to save my team. When I score, I must kick off. Kicking off puts three of my players in harms way. Every turn I do not have to kick is one where I can probably limit my opponent to his blitz action alone endangering me.
Personally, I rarely stall very long because I simply suck at it. When I do try, I can be reasonably certain the other coach will take the ball and deprive me of my TD. If there is any doubt, I take the points.
First, if I am a bashing team playing someone agile by scoring to go up 2-1 before turn 8 I am inviting a draw. A good wood elf coach will be able to reliably score in two turns. With a spot of luck they can one turn you.
In the first half, delaying the score is also preferable if you will have or extend the lead. It makes it likely to go into halftime ahead which will put serious pressure on your opponent to score rather quickly or concede that the best they can do is a draw.
On the other hand, if I am the agile coach, I may want to delay scoring just to save my team. When I score, I must kick off. Kicking off puts three of my players in harms way. Every turn I do not have to kick is one where I can probably limit my opponent to his blitz action alone endangering me.
Personally, I rarely stall very long because I simply suck at it. When I do try, I can be reasonably certain the other coach will take the ball and deprive me of my TD. If there is any doubt, I take the points.
Posted by Kondor on 2009-03-25 06:04:33
Junior, that is a horrible thing to say. Rather, if you do not like to play those who are willing to stall, add them to your personal black list and play opponents that feel the same way as you do.
White list and add to your buddy list those who play like you.
Just realize that stalling, low fan factors, and serial fouling are all things that are within the rules and valid tactics. Avoid coaches you do not like to play just as many people avoid claw/rsc players.
White list and add to your buddy list those who play like you.
Just realize that stalling, low fan factors, and serial fouling are all things that are within the rules and valid tactics. Avoid coaches you do not like to play just as many people avoid claw/rsc players.
Posted by Irgy on 2009-03-25 06:26:24
It's as much a part of the game as caging, crowd pushing, dp gang fouling, and any other strategy you might want to use, and you do really just need to get used to it. That said, you don't have to like other people's play styles and you don't have to play people you don't like. I do agree with you that if someone is going to be 2 tds ahead anyway they might as well score, even though many people don't do it. It's just their spp loss though usually. In any case, when they don't, you'll find the game actually goes much quicker - a stalled out game is over in a few minutes whereas playing on to try and win 5-0 (like I do) takes much longer and is much more humiliating.
Posted by Kinks on 2009-03-25 08:10:36
I WAS against stalling when I first started on FUMBBL. I agree with you, that if you are in the lead by 1 TD or more there is little to be gained by stalling, as even if you do subsequently concede a TD after kicking you will still be in the lead and receiving (giving you the opportunity to stall should you wish.
The problem is, if I have already taken casualties and used my apo scoring a TD puts players at risk that I don't want to put at risk.
If I was at least 1 TD in the lead, 3 sacrificial LOS players, still had my apo and wasn't playing in a tourney I wouldn't stall. Other than that I'm afraid stalling offers the best chance of winning and team building.
The problem is, if I have already taken casualties and used my apo scoring a TD puts players at risk that I don't want to put at risk.
If I was at least 1 TD in the lead, 3 sacrificial LOS players, still had my apo and wasn't playing in a tourney I wouldn't stall. Other than that I'm afraid stalling offers the best chance of winning and team building.
Posted by bobafettsmum on 2009-03-25 13:33:00
Yeah it P's me off when i'm on the recieving end but its a valid tactic. Even in real life sports it happens. Footballers take the ball to the corner flag. In american football if the offence is winning they keep the ball inbounds and run the ball minimizing the chance of a turnover. So its upto you to pressure the other side into scoring or making a mistake.
Posted by BeeRTRuCK on 2009-03-25 14:51:40
stalling is the most annoying tactic ive ever had used against me, and if you cant beat 'em, beat 'em up.
I gain more pleasure in killing players against a stalling team of rats/zons than displeasure from losing it.
Of course if i had my way i'd win and kill them all :P
I gain more pleasure in killing players against a stalling team of rats/zons than displeasure from losing it.
Of course if i had my way i'd win and kill them all :P
Posted by Wreckage on 2009-03-25 15:17:06
A while ago I met a guy, that said: he's only going to play me if I don't stall.... I told him that I don't understand what he means by stalling. And he said: It's when your ballcarrier is in scoring range and you don't score.
So I build a cage in the middle of the field and he got in my way and I couldn't go forward. When I still wasn't in scoring range after 5 turns, he disconnected from the game.
So I build a cage in the middle of the field and he got in my way and I couldn't go forward. When I still wasn't in scoring range after 5 turns, he disconnected from the game.
Posted by Wreckage on 2009-03-25 15:19:41
Eventually I told the admins and he came back and finished the game... even tough he was pretty pissed and stated, he would never play me again...