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2012-07-13 19:52:14
29 votes, rating 5.3
Is Picking Dead?
Over the last week or two of massive forum and blog chatter, we've seen what I think is the worst trait we (as a community / site) exhibit. No; it's not chain eating until we have our own gravitational pull (that's shadow, what you meant one of his _other_ traits? ;)), I mean the holier than thou fun police we tend to become.

I've dropped out of Blackbox. Without being judgemental or kicking off thread 5567568 of everyone proving they have a massive e-phallus but the next guy is an evil cheeseball who should be (at best) killed or (at worst) banned, it wasn't for me anymore. I moved to Ranked.

The greatest gift Ranked gives us is choice. The choice to play whatever games we like, the choice of aiming for whatever we like, from Majors to Evolution teams to whatever you can think of. Of course, some people abuse choice, and historically, we've had a go as the fun police at people that do. Someone once said to me that you could look at the last 20 games of any coach on site; and if you went in with the viewpoint of trying to pick fault, you easily could. That's what we do as the fun police, decide that guy isn't playing as whiter than white as we do. Aren't we brilliant?

My philosophy is simple. I have a very limited time with which to play open online BB. When I look for a game, I look for a match between two teams that's interesting (I don't think minmax is interesting, hence my jump), that's varied compared to what I've played recently, and most importantly, that's there to play.

Ranked is not what it was in terms of volume. Very often, there is one game available, or one other coach available to play, at least. Sometimes, when I'm offered a game by that coach, I ask myself what the fun police would have me do. Would they stop me playing the only game I'll get all day because of some arbitrary number none of us agree is reasonable? Would they have me only play a game when the top 5% of the site are looking, or give up massive handicaps when they aren't? If you'd told me when I was new I needed huge leg ups in order to compete, I would have called you a patronising git and ignored you. Now, all I want is that strategic test of skill I play the game for. The days in the Box when I had to test skill and also test almost insurmountable odds thanks to CR weren't fun. Lord knows that's the only reason I'm here in the first place, fun. Don't police me!

So I want games. I'd rather play or not. But over the last month or so, getting the game has been the challenge.

During the recent loud chatter, there was the easy fallback amongst some of us that Ranked is full of pickers. Now, I don't really mind too much (although, I do admit it needled a little since that's where I am these days) about that, but it did make me wonder how one can pick these days. How many times do you see a jam packed gamefinder with glistening cherries that 'those guys' who I shan't mention would dive upon? Because I'm never on at those times. I think when we see good coaches play not so good coach these days, it's just easiest for some of us to fall back into the fun police standby; that game wasn't selected by an algorithm, picked game. It's lazy. I can sure as hell tell you that if I have a choice of playing a game in an evening with someone who's lost a few more games than me or not playing, I'll play. Wouldn't you?

But there is hope for the anti fun police. Look at Fishbowl. Here we have a new system where, to get a game, you must press that green tick. You don't hassle someone via IRC. Both coaches (effectively) need to make the challenge, so both coaches must want to play the game, must think it fair. In a very low percentage of games, of course you have the chance that a new coach doesn't know what he's doing. But, surely in 98% of cases plus, everyone is happy, and the fun police must go elsewhere to be judgemental.

I don't doubt that some people will still abuse choice. My gut instinct is that there will be the odd 'picker' with 20 hours a day free to sit with his team ticking over a thousand boxes until he gets the cherry he wants, and that some coaches will still only Elfball. But I do think 'picking' as we know it will be much reduced. I'd go as far as to say that if we didn't remember picking from the old days, it wouldn't get brought up.

But, anyway. The next time you're going to play the fun police on minmaxing, on picking, on matchmaking that others enjoy, whatever, just have a word with yourself. You could waste hours of your life getting stuck into the forum about it, or you could just accept that some people are always going to be a bit dodgy sometimes, and it's very likely that the one eyed man could find plenty of fault with you too.

Have a go on Fishbowl. Picking was so last year.
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Comments
Posted by Garion on 2012-07-13 19:58:14
Good read, but please god stop calling it Fishbowl ;)

We need a better name, any ideas?
Posted by HLY on 2012-07-13 19:59:40
Hear hear

and fishbowl is the worlds greatest name
Posted by blader4411 on 2012-07-13 20:00:59
Christer calls it Gamefinder; how about we use that? Fishbowl just makes me think of Macavity's avatar anyway..
Posted by pythrr on 2012-07-13 20:10:08
fishbowl FTW

and I'm with goo - moving back to R
Posted by Woodstock on 2012-07-13 20:17:31
fishy fishy fishy!
Posted by PsyPhiGrad on 2012-07-13 20:18:40
I love the attitude. I'm here for fun too. Not to police other people's fun. I mostly play stunty teams these days. It's a lot of fun, come join me. If you are up for a tasty treat (with or without cherries), challenge my Snackmasters if you see them on the Gamefinder.

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=616201
Posted by Cavetroll on 2012-07-13 20:21:43
I like Fishbowl, too.
Posted by happygrue on 2012-07-13 20:33:31
Very interesting post! I'm not sure what to think yet, but what you say surely has merit.
Posted by Purplegoo on 2012-07-13 20:34:58
Awwww, I like Fishbowl. But OK, I admit 'Gamefinder' has a ring to it too. ;)
Posted by Dalfort on 2012-07-13 20:40:14
Fishbowl : Full of Picking Piranhas

Good post, where do we sign up for the Community Warden version of the Fun Police?? they have uniforms and no power right?
Posted by harvestmouse on 2012-07-13 20:50:25
It's not in my nature to sit back and let people game the system.

Given the chance, I'll make life uncomfortable for picker and min/maxers.

As I do for people who drive leader board cars in lobbies with people having fun, in fun cars on Forza.

And shotgun window stealers in Black Ops zombies.

Picking is possibly not quite as popular as it was in 4. This is because min-maxing in box is more effective, ranked is the division it once was, and you can't really pick by TV as you could with TR/TS.

However you can sweetspot, and the big min-maxers of box, generally pick by CR in ranked. Which is more effective? I'm not sure, but they tend to play more in box. This could be down to min-maxing is more successful, or because box is a slightly more popular division.
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2012-07-13 21:12:43
cant you do smaller blogs? these give me head aches ;-) rated 6 just cos i think it will be a good blog ;-)
Posted by The_Murker on 2012-07-13 21:50:09
I realise, only having been here less that two years, I really havn't much experience with what 'picking' might have been at one point. I gather there were alot more players, and there for a lot more of a chance for a handful of coaches to descend upon 138 CR coaches almost exclusively, or whatever the LRB4 equivilent was. Maybe even the remotest numerical similarity still sends minor sparks of disgust dowm Harvestmouse's spine. Bad memories?

I'm 100% for the idea of telling the fun police to shove off. Especially in Ranked, where two people tick a box. When that's just as easy for a new Russian as entering a Black Box match is, there will be enough games to spread around that people can worry about their own, and not everyone else's.

Nice blog.
Posted by Macavity on 2012-07-13 22:00:00
The_Murker, picking was this thing some people talked about. I played no-tree flings and laughed when I won. Then the new version stole my ingredients.

Now the key is to hit people with chainsaws.

Also, I'm awesome. Purplegoo owes me 20 bucks, and what is this fishbowl thing and why wasn't I consulted?
Posted by Russo on 2012-07-13 22:05:30
Hmmmm..... now we have a Goo-Love-In because he "rediscovered" Ranked after abandoning it for the new-looker-on-the-block, Miss BlackBox.

Then he comes running back to Mrs Ranked screaming about how he is sorry he fell for the seductive charms of the new trollop on the block....worse still he drags back in to the family home, the local hustler pythrr!!

Maybe the wise ones never got the Seven Year itch and chased the skirt in the first place :P



PS nice post :-)
Posted by JigerJones on 2012-07-13 22:30:38
I still play both, but would love to get more games in Ranked. However, there certainly are times where only a few coaches are around, and lets just say they aren't interested in playing anything near a fair matchup. I have little problem playing my elves, but some of the others its really tough, FishBowl, GameFinder, or whatever. Hopefully PurpleGoo and Pythrr will add two more brave coaches to the mix.
Posted by Overhamsteren on 2012-07-13 23:13:57
Sometimes I stumble upon a team of a race that I am interested in at the moment, and get extra intrigued by the 20-3-1 record. then I check the past matches and practically every team this guy has ever played has a losing record. It's damn hysterical but I must confess I also sometimes feel it's unfair and want to tell the guy how lame he is but oh well not gonna start any threads or blogs about it.

Not that I haven't played games skewed in my favour but I at least try to play some of the better coaches once in a while. That said it is a drag trying to get a game in ranked without challenging 'losing' coaches, often a coach 'on my level' comes around and swiftly picks the game with the losing coach I haven't challenged while waiting.

Lately I've been playing a lot in the box again. ;D
Posted by The_Murker on 2012-07-14 01:20:08
That's the key, isn't it. Elves have no problem getting games because they don't have mighty blow in their armory.(or PO, nevermind claw) Opponents with MB on their team.. it's like giving Nuffle an extra option to screw you with bad luck. If you want to be handed out cas in droves every 3rd game you'd just play box at 1700 TV.

Is a guy building zons for a tourney run a picker if he plays no opponents with tackle?

Over, you flat said it, and I get the feeling even PGoo wants to call a lame spade a spade when he sees it every now and again, while both at the same time noting how hard it is to get games sometimes.

I dunno. I can see why this could be one reason some very honest gentlemen play Box. They are not good enough to know if they are being "picked" and what's a fair/good match.. but they are well good enough to win things that look good to them. (meaning skills match-ups or low CR opponents) And something about that dosn't feel right to them. Feeling even remotely like a "picker." So they just let the bot decide.

I feel a bit of that. And I also don't really like how I feel avoiding Mighty Blow. But I don't like the frustration it can bring by turn 3 either.

I'd rather we dump the whole label. I'd rather we dump CR, truth be told. (I guess you'd be left with win/loss, games played, etc. Which is where the real info is. Could we hide everything except games played? Maybe just see you OWN stats, not others?)
Posted by JigerJones on 2012-07-14 01:25:38
I'll also throw this in the mix: I don't mind being picked, to a point. Anybody who has known me for very long knows I play some pretty bad matchups at times. I'm also not afraid to play a killer type team if I know it will be fun (used to play PaulHicks, like playing Carlo, etc) but there are times when I want to get a team tourney ready, and if it aint elves, it usually is very tough to find games.
Posted by WindexChugger on 2012-07-14 04:04:35
Please no Fishbowl. All I can think of is the awful club near my university with the same name!
Posted by Niebling on 2012-07-14 05:17:58
Being able to pick is not a good thing for everyone.

I cant play in R, because I know I would never ever choose to play a match where I dont think my team can handle the other team... hence I would lose out a lot on matchups.

I would never play zones vs dwarfs or similar bad matchups, in short I would not be able to stop myself from cherry picking all the time.

Hence the box is where I need to be :)

but its good that R has gotten some love with the new LFG system
Posted by Jeffro on 2012-07-14 18:38:59
+1 for Fishbowl.

And excellent blog, Goo... people also have to reconsider that "picking" doesn't always mean looking for the easiest matchup. Sometimes picking is playing a coach you enjoy playing against, or NOT playing against someone you don't like or you know doesn't like you ;)